Just passing this along. Lightroom is on sale for $189 on Amazon todayhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018VH8S2/?tag=tt-20

Mediahoundwrote:Just passing this along. Lightroom is on sale for $189 on Amazon todayI'm an old photoshop user. Can someone give me a sales pitch on why I need lightroom? $189 is pretty cheap.

Lightroom includes the software to import your images from the RAW format and at the same time assign keywords while making a back of your files on another hard drive.It has tools for post processing your photos as well as a extensive data access management features.It's a great tool if you shoot a lot of photos through the year. I just ordered Lightroom and the upgrade to Photoshop CS4 this morning (currently on Photoshop CS).There is much more to Lightroom and you can read up on the features on Adobe.com.

Thanks. I just upgraded to CS4. You'll love the tabbed interface.Lynn55wrote:Lightroom includes the software to import your images from the RAW format and at the same time assign keywords while making a back of your files on another hard drive.It has tools for post processing your photos as well as a extensive data access management features.It's a great tool if you shoot a lot of photos through the year. I just ordered Lightroom and the upgrade to Photoshop CS4 this morning (currently on Photoshop CS).There is much more to Lightroom and you can read up on the features on Adobe.com.

I don't think so. I am new to Litghtroom. Maybe someone can shed more light on the subject.Lynn -- Lynn Cole --------------------------- http://JJSmart.com/walks

No. LR and PS are totally different. They look and feel as different worlds. Not a big problem as LR is not that hard to learn. If you used ACR in PS you allready know half.PS is an imagemanipulation programme. LR is a database thing with the ability to organize, convert and finetune as may pictures as you'd like. The strength of LR is that you can apply one or a few settings (like WB, crop or sharpening) to thousands of pictures in a minute. PS is nothing like that as you know. With PS you can do any trick in the book... with LR you can convert raws, tune colors, sharpness etc. but nothing spectaculair. LR does not know layers or creative filters. And it does not know actions as used in PS.Mediahoundwrote:

hunkwrote: No. LR and PS are totally different. They look and feel as different worlds. Not a big problem as LR is not that hard to learn. If you used ACR in PS you allready know half.PS is an imagemanipulation programme. LR is a database thing with the ability to organize, convert and finetune as may pictures as you'd like. The strength of LR is that you can apply one or a few settings (like WB, crop or sharpening) to thousands of pictures in a minute. PS is nothing like that as you know. With PS you can do any trick in the book... with LR you can convert raws, tune colors, sharpness etc. but nothing spectaculair. LR does not know layers or creative filters. And it does not know actions as used in PS.Mediahoundwrote:

Can't you do most of that with Bridge though?

Have a student in the family? Somewhere in the family. Check outhttp://www.academicsuperstore.com. I believe I got my daughters Lightroom 2.0 full copy for $99. License is good for two installations. Her college classes have her so saddled she hasn't had time to look at it yet, but I use my installation nightly!

Your older Photoshop can not open or edit any of the newer camera RAW files like the 5D2. Adobe updates its camera RAW databases for Photoshop CS4 and Lightroom 2.2 only. Not sure about CS3.mchahnwrote:Mediahoundwrote:Just passing this along. Lightroom is on sale for $189 on Amazon todayI'm an old photoshop user. Can someone give me a sales pitch on why I need lightroom? $189 is pretty cheap.

Can you do adjustment layers and create alpha channels in Lightroom?Not as such. You can use a brush to apply (multiple) non-destructive local adjustments, but Lightroom does not have layers or selections.Kinds of things you can brush in locally.exposurebrightnesscontrastsaturationclarity (negative clarity gets you softening)sharpnesscolor tintall of these are available as a gradient alsoSeparate but related toolsspottingred eye removalAlso related and convenient is the ability to save multiple states of an image as "Snapshots" so multiple versions of an image can be saved at no increase in file sizejames

LOL. I meant I'm old, not my version of photoshop. I need to speak gooder.Now if I could only update myself to a newer version.cthetoywrote: Your older Photoshop can not open or edit any of the newer camera RAW files like the 5D2. Adobe updates its camera RAW databases for Photoshop CS4 and Lightroom 2.2 only. Not sure about CS3.mchahnwrote:Mediahoundwrote:Just passing this along. Lightroom is on sale for $189 on Amazon todayI'm an old photoshop user. Can someone give me a sales pitch on why I need lightroom? $189 is pretty cheap.

No, but the two programs work almost seamlessly together and you can pass a photo from Lightroom to PS and back with extreme ease. LR does not modify the original image, and I believe that when you have imported the image with LR, perform some actions there, pass to PS, perform PS specific actions, then pass back to LR, that LR keeps track of the changes in PS much the same way it tracks its own actions. If you use them both together you gain tremendous speed, flexibility, and ease with LR's wide range of capability, and lose nothing of PS own specific capabilities. They are an utterly amazing package when used together.There is a whole section on using LR and PS together and the options you have available to you in the Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 2 Book, section 9, "the Photoshop Connection". Scott Kelby also spends a hour on this in his day-long seminar that is on national tour.