Chris Wolfgram wrote:Do you think this is crazy ?So in the last week, I have corresponded with at least 5 folks who own both, or have owned both the R5 and the R7, but are using there R7's almost exclusively for birds. Biggest plus is the extra reach. Certainly has been for me.Anxious to get my second R7. It will make an awesome backup, plus, I will probably keep the RF 100-400 on it, for wider angle stuff that might pop up.I know the R5 has an advantage with some types of photography, and also, it could get a really big bump with the new big firmware update. Sound for the electronic shutter would have been a big one for me.But anyway, I'm just killing it with my R7, and in the 5 weeks I've had it, I finally picked up my R5 once.... Shot about 800 shots with it, and thought, Nope. I'd rather shoot with my $1500 R7.Now, with two $1500 cameras, I won't feel near so "locked" in, whenever the R7 Mk II comes out.... And if it takes 2 or 3 years, eh. That's fine. No rush 🙂Geez, these $1500 cameras with a $900 800 F11, what a fantastic value !All the recent photos on my Flicker page were shot with the RF 800, and most recent were with my R7.https://www.flickr.com/photos/161603079@N02/Your shots are inspiring, Chris. Thank you for sharing what's possible with such a budget setup! Gives me great encouragement!

Laqup wrote:LennyLevino wrote:So in the last week, I have corresponded with at least 5 folks who own both, or have owned both the R5 and the R7, but are using there R7's almost exclusively for birds. Biggest plus is the extra reach. Certainly has been for me.Crop sensor doesn't give you extra reach, though. This is a misconception. Only the focal length of your lens will give you reach.This continuously repeated statement is only a technicality and does not help at all. You make it sound like there is zero advantage of crop sensors for some use cases, which is not true either.Crop will often get you more "pixels per duck", and this is often what matters. Of course sensor resolution / pixel density has a say in this as well (e.g. the 20MP Z50 does not have an advantage over 46MP Z7 in crop mode) and of course the lens has to be able to resolve some additional detail, but nevertheless with most lenses a R7 will provide additional, meaningful detail on the target vs a R6 or a R6 II and often even vs the R5 with the same lens. This is meant when uers casually write "gives more reach", no need to be pedantic about that. And I'm sure you know that as well.Chuckling 🙂 Nonetheless, it gets brought up at last a couple times in just about every thread concerning FF and Crop sensors.I’m a little bit into the technicalities, or else, why would I even come to DPreview…. But still the most important thing to me, is what gives me the most good shots. And like I have said, I shot with the R5 for a full year. Probably took about 100K shots with it, and some were really nice too. But the R7, for whatever reason someone wants to attribute it to, is just giving me a higher % of good shots.Speaking of pixel density, I read that for a FF sensor to have the same pixel density as the R7, it would need to be around 85 mp.

dankenny wrote:Chris Wolfgram wrote:Do you think this is crazy ?So in the last week, I have corresponded with at least 5 folks who own both, or have owned both the R5 and the R7, but are using there R7's almost exclusively for birds. Biggest plus is the extra reach. Certainly has been for me.Anxious to get my second R7. It will make an awesome backup, plus, I will probably keep the RF 100-400 on it, for wider angle stuff that might pop up.I know the R5 has an advantage with some types of photography, and also, it could get a really big bump with the new big firmware update. Sound for the electronic shutter would have been a big one for me.But anyway, I'm just killing it with my R7, and in the 5 weeks I've had it, I finally picked up my R5 once.... Shot about 800 shots with it, and thought, Nope. I'd rather shoot with my $1500 R7.Now, with two $1500 cameras, I won't feel near so "locked" in, whenever the R7 Mk II comes out.... And if it takes 2 or 3 years, eh. That's fine. No rush 🙂Geez, these $1500 cameras with a $900 800 F11, what a fantastic value !All the recent photos on my Flicker page were shot with the RF 800, and most recent were with my R7.https://www.flickr.com/photos/161603079@N02/Your shots are inspiring, Chris. Thank you for sharing what's possible with such a budget setup! Gives me great encouragement!Thank you Dan 🙂 It has definitely been a lot of fun !