Has anyone ever used the above combination and did you have any problems with vignetting at the wide end?I think I may of asked this question before but better to be safe than sorry. Will I regret not buying the thin version or even a thin Hoya?Thanks

I don't have the links handy, but I've seen posts that vignetting with standard CP starts at 12mm. I have a thin B+W Kaesemann and it works fine at 10.The price is intimadating but the quality is worth it. At 77mm and multicoated, thin filters from other vendors approach the same price. Painful, but true.

R Nwrote:I don't have the links handy, but I've seen posts that vignetting with standard CP starts at 12mm. I have a thin B+W Kaesemann and it works fine at 10.The price is intimadating but the quality is worth it. At 77mm and multicoated, thin filters from other vendors approach the same price. Painful, but true.Thats for the reply. I'm not too concerned about the price what I'm more concerned about is having no front thread. I really want to go with B+W but want a front thread more.So I'm trying to decide between Hoya or the non-thin B+W. If anyone has used the B+W with the 10-22 I would really like to hear about it...

Can't help you other than to say that the Hoya Pro 1 works well with this lens and holds the cap.

jrsclswrote:Can't help you other than to say that the Hoya Pro 1 works well with this lens and holds the cap.Thats probably what I'm going to go for. It seems silly having a 10-22mm lens and not being able to use a CP at 10mm. The whole point of the lens is to go really wide.So unless anyone has anything to add, Hoya Pro1D here I come...

from ebay, same as the Hoya, from Hong Kong, very good quality, from seller besteastern

I am not saying that a polar filter can't be useful at that wide angle, for example to prevent reflections from windows.However, as soon as the sky is in the equation, the polar filter is of no use at that wide angle, because the light comes differently polarized from different dirtections. The result is, that in an area of the sky the effect will be very strong, in other areas much weeker, the clear sky will vary between light and dark blue.

GaborSchwrote:I am not saying that a polar filter can't be useful at that wide angle, for example to prevent reflections from windows.However, as soon as the sky is in the equation, the polar filter is of no use at that wide angle, because the light comes differently polarized from different dirtections. The result is, that in an area of the sky the effect will be very strong, in other areas much weeker, the clear sky will vary between light and dark blue.Thats pretty much what I've read, but as you said there are many uses... Foliage, waterfalls, lakes, architecture etc etc which won't necessarily have the sky in the composition.

I have the Canon 10-22 and use a B+W CP (Kaeseman)(not the slim version). The examples below are at 11mm for the first photo (F-22) and 10mm for the second (A-10). Some vignetting, but not too bad. I also use this CP on my 17-55/2.8 IS - no problems there either.I use a B+W UV/Haze slim for regular use/protection (I have slide-on lens cap problems too with the slim version).I am a big fan of B+W filters. Great glass, multicoating and brass rings.

The top line Hoya lenses have similar manufacturing standards as the B+W Kasemann line, but have better MC (B+W is still catching up in the MC dept), and offers the best polarizing layer avaailable. It uses Hoya patented copper/glass technology, does not fade, and is not subject to separation like the old school plastic polarizing layer that B+W still uses between two glass elements. B+W adds a protective ring of cement around the periphery of it's polarizing filters to help prevent separation over time, but they are the same old stuff inside.The top Hoya Pro1 CP filters are constructed at least as well, provide better performance, last longer, are ultra thin (with cap threads), and use fine aluminum frames instead of old, heavy, brass construction that the marketing dept at B+W tries to sell as a feature. The adjutment ring of Hoya CP filters are also a bit smoother than similar B+W CP filters.I like B+W filters, even though Hoya is my first choice. When it comes to a polarizer though, I'll only go for the best Hoya offering, even though it might cost more than it's Kasemann analog.

...and have to disagree that Hoya is better than B+W.Both have excellent multi-coating and I've never been able to detect any difference in use or seen any report that shows a difference in flare rejection.Both use excellent glass (however B+W uses Schott glass, Hoya does not specify). Hoya says they use a thinner glass for better flare rejection.I really like the brass rings on B+W and Heliopan filters and find that they never stick and are much easier to put on and remove vs aluminum. They are heaver, but total weight of either is insignificant compared to the camera lens combo.The real problem that I have (and many others in this forum have also reported) is that Hoya filters are difficult to clean without smearing. Not sure why, but if you get anything on one, getting it clean if much more difficult than with B+W or Heliopan (also an excellent filter).Hoya does not offer a Kaeseman CP. Kaseman CPs have top-end polarizing foils and are edge sealed.Hoya has a one year warranty, B+W has a ten year warranty, and Heliopan has a life time warranty.Heliopan makes an excellent filter using Schott glass and brass rings like B+W, but they can be more difficult to find in all sizes and types.Bottom line is that Hoya, B+W and Heliopan make excellent filters, but to say that Hoya is the best of the three is I think a little questionable. You may prefer Hoya's aluminum rings and multi-coating, I do not. -- Jim 'Carnac' Carnahan

I have this lens and the Hoya Pro 1 Digital... Its an excellent combo. It is correct that you get differing shades in the sky (as in the aircraft shots in this post) but that adds an interesting effect to the shot...Its the first time Ive shot with a CP and its so nice that I now feel like buying a 67mm for my 70-200 F4 IS and 17-85 ...

Mwrote:from ebay, same as the Hoya, from Hong Kong, very good quality, from seller besteasternI am actually thinking about buying a CP from besteastern on eBay, but I was wondering if this is a trustworthy site. Were you pleased with the service? Also, is there any possibility that the filters could be counterfeit or do you believe them to be authentic?