What Camera would you take down the Colorado River?
trivan
I'll be going on a 1 week trip down the Colorado River and debating which camera to bring.I have a Olympus TG-6 for the rafting portions and when waterproofing is a must. I'm debating between my X100V or a XT-2 with a 16-55/2.8 for the dry hikes and camp. Everything must be weather resistant due to the sand and potential for water.The TG-6 will have the zoom but will be lacking in IQ.I know I won't go wrong with either camera, but just looking for advise to those who may have done a similar trip. Last night, I was ready to go with the XT-2, this morning I'm with the X100V....
jst13
All of the Fuji stuff is not water resistance some splash could be ok but falling into the water they all will be dead. sand ? Depends? So be careful
Doug MacMillan
GoPro
MrSee
The X-H1 with the new Fuji 10-24 f4 WR
jjz2
trivan wrote:I'll be going on a 1 week trip down the Colorado River and debating which camera to bring.I have a Olympus TG-6 for the rafting portions and when waterproofing is a must. I'm debating between my X100V or a XT-2 with a 16-55/2.8 for the dry hikes and camp. Everything must be weather resistant due to the sand and potential for water.The TG-6 will have the zoom but will be lacking in IQ.I know I won't go wrong with either camera, but just looking for advise to those who may have done a similar trip. Last night, I was ready to go with the XT-2, this morning I'm with the X100V....Isn't the potential to fall out, have a big splash soak you, or flip it for a bit pretty high when rafting there? There's some rapids on the way, right? I mean, even if not in active use...you could get your bag drenched.No fuji cameras are waterproof, I wouldn't take them out in more than drizzling-moderate rain or something.There are waterproof cams out there though... and water proof housing.I used to do ocean kayaking but would not bring my camera equipment there, only Go Pro. It's got a clear waterproof housing, and you can mount the orange foam floaty thing to it as well in case it goes overboard.
baobob
YOUR XT 2 WITH A 18-135MM
doak
If you end up taking a Fuji would you please report your experience with the camera on your trip?Thanks!
Truman Prevatt
Waterproof pouch - no matter what you take and keep your camera in the pouch when not using it while on the water. Also secure the pouch to the inside of the raft. The last thing you want is for your camera to be bounced out. You have a life jacket and if bounded out - you'll probably be fine but your camera can't swim.Whatever you take bring us back a picture of the Pink Rattlesnake. The only place in the world you will find it is the Grand Canyon.
Morris0
Doug MacMillan wrote:GoProI agree with Doug for shooting in the water craft. I'd also bring a Fuji body with the 10-24 and possibly a longer lens for wildlife. The Fuji gear would go in an acumination can lined with carpet padding. Both the admonition can and the GoPro would be tied to the water craft with short lines that would not allow me to become entangled should we flip. I used to do a lot of white water canoeing and used a Nikonos diving camera and also Canon AE-1.Morris
Morris0
Truman Prevatt wrote:Waterproof pouch - no matter what you take and keep your camera in the pouch when not using it while on the water. Also secure the pouch to the inside of the raft. The last thing you want is for your camera to be bounced out. You have a life jacket and if bounded out - you'll probably be fine but your camera can't swim.Whatever you take bring us back a picture of the Pink Rattlesnake. The only place in the world you will find it is the Grand Canyon.I've had too many problems with river bags to trust this. They work great till they leak. I'll put my clothing in them, never a camera.Morris
Craig268
Morris mentioned Nikonos. They're still very fine cameras and pretty much the best for wet work.
trivan
Thank everyone. I'm not good with quote so I'll address a few comments:Waterproof verse Weather resistance : I realize the fuji's aren't waterproof, which is why I'm bring the TG-6 which is for the times on the raft and when the hikes are in the water. Fuji is for dry hikes and camp only.GoPro? - I'll be bringing a Insta360 One 2 as an action cam. Fully waterproof down to 30mX-H1? Just bought he X100V so not in the budgetWhile in the raft will be housed in a Watershed bag. I'm a scuba diver, use these bag when on dive boats. These bags are as waterproof as one can get. Designed mainly for river runners as well. I rate them better in certain situations then a pelican case.Pink Rattlesnake picture - If I can, but I might be running the opposite direction....Interesting no one is advocating just bringing the X100V.
Morris0
trivan wrote:Thank everyone. I'm not good with quote so I'll address a few comments:Waterproof verse Weather resistance : I realize the fuji's aren't waterproof, which is why I'm bring the TG-6 which is for the times on the raft and when the hikes are in the water. Fuji is for dry hikes and camp only.GoPro? - I'll be bringing a Insta360 One 2 as an action cam. Fully waterproof down to 30mX-H1? Just bought he X100V so not in the budgetWhile in the raft will be housed in a Watershed bag. I'm a scuba diver, use these bag when on dive boats. These bags are as waterproof as one can get. Designed mainly for river runners as well. I rate them better in certain situations then a pelican case.Pink Rattlesnake picture - If I can, but I might be running the opposite direction....Interesting no one is advocating just bringing the X100V.In my experience river bags get beat up and then the seals leak when used in white water. Much more pounding than diving. If the outfitter is providing the river bag, put your camera in something else or at least double zip lock bags inside the river bag.Morris
trivan
Morris0 wrote:In my experience river bags get beat up and then the seals leak when used in white water. Much more pounding than diving. If the outfitter is providing the river bag, put your camera in something else or at least double zip lock bags inside the river bag.MorrisGood advice for easy insurance, will do this.
Rightsaidfred
Morris0 wrote:... put your camera in something else or at least double zip lock bags inside the river bag.MorrisSome 20 years ago, one of my hobbies was caving. I always brought my Pentax Super A and a Metz TTL flash with a cable to have more flexibility for the lighting. I put both together into a big Tupperware box stuffed with a piece of cloth, and carried the box in my bag pack. You know, in a cave it can get muddy and wet. I took the camera out in the caves only when taking photos. Never had a problem. Never changed lenses in a cave (well, I was a student and didn't own too many lenses back then). The Tupperware boxes can be closed with a little negative pressure and hold securely tight. My late grandma sold Tupperware so the family was equippedGrandma died more than 20 years ago, we still use some of her boxes.BR,Martin
Truman Prevatt
trivan wrote:Morris0 wrote:In my experience river bags get beat up and then the seals leak when used in white water. Much more pounding than diving. If the outfitter is providing the river bag, put your camera in something else or at least double zip lock bags inside the river bag.MorrisGood advice for easy insurance, will do this.I would actually get a dry bag of sufficient size and put some padding in it. Then that can go in the outfitters river bag. However, just because it says "dry bag" doesn't mean it will protect your gear. It sort of like WR - nice words but no IP rating. B&H and some 5 to 10 L dry bags that have an IP rating of 6X. Unless somehow who you gear takes its own float trip down the river - that should work if during the most dramatic times it is stowed in the outfitter river bag. During those times you are going to be concentrating on paddling or keeping yourself in the raft - not taking pictures.If you want pictures at that point - pick up a GoPro. In fact I would probably do that from the get go and not worry about my Fuji stuff. Fuji cameras are not designed for that type of extreme environment. With care you can probably get away taking them but when you might like to use it most - probably not a good idea to have them exposed.
trivan
Thanks again for everyone input and advice. I accept the risk of bring a camera down river.Going to try to nudge this back to the original question.Take the X100V or XT-2 with 18-55/2.8 lens?
trivan
I would actually get a dry bag of sufficient size and put some padding in it. Then that can go in the outfitters river bag. However, just because it says "dry bag" doesn't mean it will protect your gear. It sort of like WR - nice words but no IP rating. B&H and some 5 to 10 L dry bags that have an IP rating of 6X. Unless somehow who you gear takes its own float trip down the river - that should work if during the most dramatic times it is stowed in the outfitter river bag. During those times you are going to be concentrating on paddling or keeping yourself in the raft - not taking pictures.If you want pictures at that point - pick up a GoPro. In fact I would probably do that from the get go and not worry about my Fuji stuff. Fuji cameras are not designed for that type of extreme environment. With care you can probably get away taking them but when you might like to use it most - probably not a good idea to have them exposed.I will have a Insta360 One 2 - which is a 360 degree GoPro as well.
yayatosorus
Whatever you do, make sure to protect the camera when exposed to splashes. I'd recommend getting some sort of waterproof bag or and underwater housing. If you'll go for the latter, check outEwa-Marine.I've said it many times, but it's really unfortunate that Fuji had a go building a rugged APS-C camera like the Olympus TG series.
upsidedown
GoPro or similar and a modern (i)phone will probably document such trip better than any camera. Phones are waterproof and come with 3-4 lenses nowadays, and picture quality is pretty decent. And with basic sturdy clear plastic photo bag for a phone that is attached to something on owner you'll have relatively easy to access camera with much lower chance to loose it.