I currently have a Sony A7iii and I'd like to have a smaller setup for travel. Fuji cameras are always in my mind because of the film simulation. I also would like to use the camera for my vintage lenses, plus its own AF lenses. Based on my research on paper, I feel X-S10 is a better choice among X-S10, X-T30 and X-T3/4. However, when it comes down to lenses, I can't make up my mind. I prefer to have a zoom for travel and was initially interested in 16-80 but later found out it is quite big (having a 72mm filter diameter). 18-55 seems not long enough for me and 18-135m doesn't seem to have a very good reputation.My hesitation on lens choice also leads me to think if I should just buy a Tamron 28-200 and together with my A7iii as I have traveled with DSLRs before anyway.Before I make my mind, I'd like to hear any comments from Fuji users regarding X-S10 or in general Fuji cameras. Thanks in advance.

If you really want a smaller setup you'd have to use the f2 primes but it seems like you prefer zooms. What focal lengths do you normally use?I personally love Fujis fast primes but if I had to pick one zoom it would be the 16-80 (24-120). I wouldn't consider it to be big...or you could pair the 18-55 with the cheap 50-230mm etc.Oherwise you might as well stick with Sony & Tamron.Check out the sizes too:https://j.mp/2OEWNt4

I'm thinking of getting it with the XC15-45 as I saw a really nice price for that. It's a powerzoom, but it might make a very nice convenience lens besides the big and heavy

I have been using the 18-135mm for years since bought it at its launch at the XT1 period....Unlike many people I find it a very good one lens solution for travel once you know oits weakness and cope for it (softness on borders at  f 5.6, quite good at f8 or better f 10)IMO a faithful review is at ephotozine with results that match my experience.Finally, I find it is a "good enough" reavel solution that allows to catch opportunities without missing superb shots.The built is superb it is WR and AF is fast.

Get the 55-200mm and a used 18-55mmI'm gonna travel  with XS10m 16mm1.4,  35mm1.4   50mmf2 and 55-200mmThe 35mm1.4 is always on for 90% if the time. Have not used the 18-55mm once since I bought the 35mm1.4 .www.Stayuntilforever.com plenty of Fujifilm travel photography there@sufstreet @xftales

Why get another system just for travel? The Sony A7C is quite small.

baobob wrote:I have been using the 18-135mm for years since bought it at its launch at the XT1 period....Unlike many people I find it a very good one lens solution for travel once you know oits weakness and cope for it (softness on borders at f 5.6, quite good at f8 or better f 10)IMO a faithful review is at ephotozine with results that match my experience.Finally, I find it is a "good enough" reavel solution that allows to catch opportunities without missing superb shots.The built is superb it is WR and AF is fast.Agree on the 18-135. If you find the 16-80 short then the 18-135 is a great lens and can be found cheap in the used market (I will be selling mine too, as I have also the 16-80).

vivaldibow wrote:I currently have a Sony A7iii and I'd like to have a smaller setup for travel. Fuji cameras are always in my mind because of the film simulation. I also would like to use the camera for my vintage lenses, plus its own AF lenses. Based on my research on paper, I feel X-S10 is a better choice among X-S10, X-T30 and X-T3/4. However, when it comes down to lenses, I can't make up my mind. I prefer to have a zoom for travel and was initially interested in 16-80 but later found out it is quite big (having a 72mm filter diameter). 18-55 seems not long enough for me and 18-135m doesn't seem to have a very good reputation.My hesitation on lens choice also leads me to think if I should just buy a Tamron 28-200 and together with my A7iii as I have traveled with DSLRs before anyway.Before I make my mind, I'd like to hear any comments from Fuji users regarding X-S10 or in general Fuji cameras. Thanks in advance.Personally, now Tamron has released the 11-20 2.8 I'm probably going to replace the x-s10 with the a7r4. I was going a7r3/24-105 but the 24-105 is just a bit heavy and a7r3 lacks a7r4 functionality but a7r3 does have a better FF sensor imo. I'm actually going to use the aps-c lenses on the a7r4 predominantly for leisure/travel, the Tamron 11-20 and 17-70 will be my go to pair and then add FF lenses above for wildlife and other things and a couple of primes for serious stuff! I am amazed that Tamron released the 17-70 2.8, even more so now the 11-20, its a real shame Sony has no decent aps-c body, I tried the a6600 and I wouldn't go there!Seriously I have a full Fuji kit and I like the colors/lenses but xtrans is marmite and the x-s10 buffer is limited. So i think the 200g body premium of the a7r4 is worth it for 26mp apc bayer and option to go 60mp FF when I want/need.My recommendation would be to upgrade the a7iii to the a7r4, there are plenty of deals and trade-ins at the moment for it and then use it in aps-c, you could also select the Sony 18-135 aps-c which is also very good lens but I'm not a huge fan of 18(28) start in travel zooms so I'd prefer to have a touch wider, 17 is about the minimum I'd want, ie 25mm, so I'm not swapping between lenses unnecessarily.Also, the Tamron 150-500 is just so exciting for wildlife, great size, Tamron is on a roll at the moment with their zooms.

Flying Fijian wrote:If you really want a smaller setup you'd have to use the f2 primes but it seems like you prefer zooms. What focal lengths do you normally use?I personally love Fujis fast primes but if I had to pick one zoom it would be the 16-80 (24-120). I wouldn't consider it to be big...or you could pair the 18-55 with the cheap 50-230mm etc.Oherwise you might as well stick with Sony & Tamron.Check out the sizes too:https://j.mp/2OEWNt4Thanks for the information, especially the website. I now can do some of further research in comparing the system setup. For fast primes, I'll definitely consider them.

robert1955 wrote:I'm thinking of getting it with the XC15-45 as I saw a really nice price for that. It's a powerzoom, but it might make a very nice convenience lens besides the big and heavyThanks. I wasn't aware of this lens. Will consider it as an alternative solution.

baobob wrote:I have been using the 18-135mm for years since bought it at its launch at the XT1 period....Unlike many people I find it a very good one lens solution for travel once you know oits weakness and cope for it (softness on borders at f 5.6, quite good at f8 or better f 10)IMO a faithful review is at ephotozine with results that match my experience.Finally, I find it is a "good enough" reavel solution that allows to catch opportunities without missing superb shots.The built is superb it is WR and AF is fast.Thanks. Great to hear you like 18-135. My expectation of these superzooms is not too high so I can live with the trade-offs. This lens reminds me of my Sony 18-250 superzoom. Its optics doesn't draw too much attention but for a travel zoom, it is good enough and has great flexibility.

Yannis1976 wrote:baobob wrote:I have been using the 18-135mm for years since bought it at its launch at the XT1 period....Unlike many people I find it a very good one lens solution for travel once you know oits weakness and cope for it (softness on borders at f 5.6, quite good at f8 or better f 10)IMO a faithful review is at ephotozine with results that match my experience.Finally, I find it is a "good enough" reavel solution that allows to catch opportunities without missing superb shots.The built is superb it is WR and AF is fast.Agree on the 18-135. If you find the 16-80 short then the 18-135 is a great lens and can be found cheap in the used market (I will be selling mine too, as I have also the 16-80).Thanks for the comments as well. I might just go to Bestbuy to see if they have this lens for display.

Sufstreet wrote:Get the 55-200mm and a used 18-55mmI'm gonna travel with XS10m 16mm1.4, 35mm1.4 50mmf2 and 55-200mmThe 35mm1.4 is always on for 90% if the time. Have not used the 18-55mm once since I bought the 35mm1.4 .www.Stayuntilforever.com plenty of Fujifilm travel photography there@sufstreet @xftalesThanks for mentioning the 55-200. I am also thinking of 18-55/55-200. But at the same time I am attracted by 10-24 so I am leaning towards either 16-80 or 18-135.

biza43 wrote:Why get another system just for travel? The Sony A7C is quite small.Actually I've thought about that. For A7c I also need a zoom so the cost would be a little higher. Maybe in the future I'll get an R plus such a compact.

vivaldibow wrote:I currently have a Sony A7iii and I'd like to have a smaller setup for travel. Fuji cameras are always in my mind because of the film simulation. I also would like to use the camera for my vintage lenses, plus its own AF lenses. Based on my research on paper, I feel X-S10 is a better choice among X-S10, X-T30 and X-T3/4. However, when it comes down to lenses, I can't make up my mind. I prefer to have a zoom for travel and was initially interested in 16-80 but later found out it is quite big (having a 72mm filter diameter). 18-55 seems not long enough for me and 18-135m doesn't seem to have a very good reputation.My hesitation on lens choice also leads me to think if I should just buy a Tamron 28-200 and together with my A7iii as I have traveled with DSLRs before anyway.Before I make my mind, I'd like to hear any comments from Fuji users regarding X-S10 or in general Fuji cameras. Thanks in advance.I travel with all my gear, and will use what I need to depending on the day and my itinerary, but Fuji can be done with lightweight setups also.The lightest kit with a prime is the XE3 and 27mm. (have it)The lightest kit with a zoom is the XE3 and 15-45mm. (have that also).Actually, you can go even smaller, but will either lose the EVF on the camera body, or AF on the lens. An even lighter option would be X-A7 and the XM-FL 24mm F8 pancake (produced only for Japan).Anything else is going to be incrementally bigger.If going small is a priority, with a zoom...you should also consider Canon EOS M200 with 15-45...or some of the micro 4/3 options... (you get smaller zooms that way).

And-roid wrote:vivaldibow wrote:I currently have a Sony A7iii and I'd like to have a smaller setup for travel. Fuji cameras are always in my mind because of the film simulation. I also would like to use the camera for my vintage lenses, plus its own AF lenses. Based on my research on paper, I feel X-S10 is a better choice among X-S10, X-T30 and X-T3/4. However, when it comes down to lenses, I can't make up my mind. I prefer to have a zoom for travel and was initially interested in 16-80 but later found out it is quite big (having a 72mm filter diameter). 18-55 seems not long enough for me and 18-135m doesn't seem to have a very good reputation.My hesitation on lens choice also leads me to think if I should just buy a Tamron 28-200 and together with my A7iii as I have traveled with DSLRs before anyway.Before I make my mind, I'd like to hear any comments from Fuji users regarding X-S10 or in general Fuji cameras. Thanks in advance.Personally, now Tamron has released the 11-20 2.8 I'm probably going to replace the x-s10 with the a7r4. I was going a7r3/24-105 but the 24-105 is just a bit heavy and a7r3 lacks a7r4 functionality but a7r3 does have a better FF sensor imo. I'm actually going to use the aps-c lenses on the a7r4 predominantly for leisure/travel, the Tamron 11-20 and 17-70 will be my go to pair and then add FF lenses above for wildlife and other things and a couple of primes for serious stuff! I am amazed that Tamron released the 17-70 2.8, even more so now the 11-20, its a real shame Sony has no decent aps-c body, I tried the a6600 and I wouldn't go there!Seriously I have a full Fuji kit and I like the colors/lenses but xtrans is marmite and the x-s10 buffer is limited. So i think the 200g body premium of the a7r4 is worth it for 26mp apc bayer and option to go 60mp FF when I want/need.My recommendation would be to upgrade the a7iii to the a7r4, there are plenty of deals and trade-ins at the moment for it and then use it in aps-c, you could also select the Sony 18-135 aps-c which is also very good lens but I'm not a huge fan of 18(28) start in travel zooms so I'd prefer to have a touch wider, 17 is about the minimum I'd want, ie 25mm, so I'm not swapping between lenses unnecessarily.Also, the Tamron 150-500 is just so exciting for wildlife, great size, Tamron is on a roll at the moment with their zooms.Appreciate your sharing the experience. I didn't realize that I can use aps-c on Sony's R series. At one point I was thinking of get an a7r3 or r4 to use full frame lenses in both full frame mode or aps-c mode. This approach could be my furture solution. Currently my kids are too young so there are lots of carry besides the camera/lenses. That was why I am thinking of a lighter setup. I even re-considered m43 and I missed my (already sold) m. 9-18mm very much.

jjz2 wrote:vivaldibow wrote:I currently have a Sony A7iii and I'd like to have a smaller setup for travel. Fuji cameras are always in my mind because of the film simulation. I also would like to use the camera for my vintage lenses, plus its own AF lenses. Based on my research on paper, I feel X-S10 is a better choice among X-S10, X-T30 and X-T3/4. However, when it comes down to lenses, I can't make up my mind. I prefer to have a zoom for travel and was initially interested in 16-80 but later found out it is quite big (having a 72mm filter diameter). 18-55 seems not long enough for me and 18-135m doesn't seem to have a very good reputation.My hesitation on lens choice also leads me to think if I should just buy a Tamron 28-200 and together with my A7iii as I have traveled with DSLRs before anyway.Before I make my mind, I'd like to hear any comments from Fuji users regarding X-S10 or in general Fuji cameras. Thanks in advance.I travel with all my gear, and will use what I need to depending on the day and my itinerary, but Fuji can be done with lightweight setups also.The lightest kit with a prime is the XE3 and 27mm. (have it)The lightest kit with a zoom is the XE3 and 15-45mm. (have that also).Actually, you can go even smaller, but will either lose the EVF on the camera body, or AF on the lens. An even lighter option would be X-A7 and the XM-FL 24mm F8 pancake (produced only for Japan).Anything else is going to be incrementally bigger.Thanks. I've thought about XE series and I actually like them. The reason that I selected X-S10 is that I may also use it for my vintage lenses so the IBIS and (probably more customizable buttons?) in X-S10 suite me in more situations.

vivaldibow wrote:jjz2 wrote:vivaldibow wrote:I currently have a Sony A7iii and I'd like to have a smaller setup for travel. Fuji cameras are always in my mind because of the film simulation. I also would like to use the camera for my vintage lenses, plus its own AF lenses. Based on my research on paper, I feel X-S10 is a better choice among X-S10, X-T30 and X-T3/4. However, when it comes down to lenses, I can't make up my mind. I prefer to have a zoom for travel and was initially interested in 16-80 but later found out it is quite big (having a 72mm filter diameter). 18-55 seems not long enough for me and 18-135m doesn't seem to have a very good reputation.My hesitation on lens choice also leads me to think if I should just buy a Tamron 28-200 and together with my A7iii as I have traveled with DSLRs before anyway.Before I make my mind, I'd like to hear any comments from Fuji users regarding X-S10 or in general Fuji cameras. Thanks in advance.I travel with all my gear, and will use what I need to depending on the day and my itinerary, but Fuji can be done with lightweight setups also.The lightest kit with a prime is the XE3 and 27mm. (have it)The lightest kit with a zoom is the XE3 and 15-45mm. (have that also).Actually, you can go even smaller, but will either lose the EVF on the camera body, or AF on the lens. An even lighter option would be X-A7 and the XM-FL 24mm F8 pancake (produced only for Japan).Anything else is going to be incrementally bigger.Thanks. I've thought about XE series and I actually like them. The reason that I selected X-S10 is that I may also use it for my vintage lenses so the IBIS and (probably more customizable buttons?) in X-S10 suite me in more situations.It's definitely the smallest way to get IBIS in Fuji at the moment.

If you want a camera just for travel - my view is that the XE-4 with the new 27mm is unbeatable.Compact, light, has a viewfinder and a screen, and 27mm is a very useful length for travel as it can do portraits, street, buildings, landscape very well.  It's also fun thinking of creative ways to get the best out of a single prime when travelling.If you really want a zoom, then the 18-135 is a very under-rated but highly versatile travel zoom -  but due to it's size it works best with XT bodies - so not a huge weight saving compared to Sony.

vivaldibow wrote:Yannis1976 wrote:baobob wrote:I have been using the 18-135mm for years since bought it at its launch at the XT1 period....Unlike many people I find it a very good one lens solution for travel once you know oits weakness and cope for it (softness on borders at f 5.6, quite good at f8 or better f 10)IMO a faithful review is at ephotozine with results that match my experience.Finally, I find it is a "good enough" reavel solution that allows to catch opportunities without missing superb shots.The built is superb it is WR and AF is fast.Agree on the 18-135. If you find the 16-80 short then the 18-135 is a great lens and can be found cheap in the used market (I will be selling mine too, as I have also the 16-80).Thanks for the comments as well. I might just go to Bestbuy to see if they have this lens for display.Happy to send you some RAW files to check IQ if you want.