Voigtländer Nokton 50mm f/1.0 - 1st shots & impressions
Rexgig0
aknyc wrote:the CV 50 f1 is smaller and lighter than Noctilux 0.95, but leica has the edge on constant and sharpness.Have you used both the Nokton 50mm f/1.0 VM, and the Leica Noctilux-M 50mm f/0.95? I am not meaning to be argumentative, but, as the owner of the Nokton f/1.0, am simply wondering whether the Noctilux f/0.95 should resume its place on my eventual-grail-quest list. (I am in the camp that believes that one can never own too many Fifties,but, justifying the allocating of the funds to a Noctilux would not be an easy task.)
LarsHP
Here's Fred Miranda's comparison of the Nokton f/1.0 and Noctilux f/0.95:https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1741370/6#infinity3Regarding resolution and sharpness, the Voigtländer hammers the Leica lens in both the center and mid-frame. Wide open, the extreme corners are more even, with the Voigtländer pulling ahead when stopping down.
SafariBob
Rexgig0 wrote:aknyc wrote:the CV 50 f1 is smaller and lighter than Noctilux 0.95, but leica has the edge on constant and sharpness.Have you used both the Nokton 50mm f/1.0 VM, and the Leica Noctilux-M 50mm f/0.95? I am not meaning to be argumentative, but, as the owner of the Nokton f/1.0, am simply wondering whether the Noctilux f/0.95 should resume its place on my eventual-grail-quest list. (I am in the camp that believes that one can never own too many Fifties,but, justifying the allocating of the funds to a Noctilux would not be an easy task.)leaving money out of the question, I prefer the noctilux bokeh, and would probably get that if I was planning on shooting wide open.Edit: after seeing the comparison on Fred Miranda again, hard to justify the 'lux.
SafariBob
LarsHP wrote:Here's Fred Miranda's comparison of the Nokton f/1.0 and Noctilux f/0.95:https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1741370/6#infinity3Regarding resolution and sharpness, the Voigtländer hammers the Leica lens in both the center and mid-frame. Wide open, the extreme corners are more even, with the Voigtländer pulling ahead when stopping down.This is a really excellent comparison, and I had forgotten how much better the Nokton really is on everything except color fringing. The only defense left for the noctilux is that it is softer, but in a nice way. If you look at samples online, particularly shot at night (noct) I would say they are nicer from the 'lux, but that could be photographer skill also.
Sjak
SafariBob wrote:This is a really excellent comparison, and I had forgotten how much better the Nokton really is on everything except color fringing. The only defense left for the noctilux is that it is softer, but in a nice way. If you look at samples online, particularly shot at night (noct) I would say they are nicer from the 'lux, but that could be photographer skill also.There's nothing wrong with preferring one or the other. Test charts are useless to point out personal preferences.For me, the Noctilux 0.95 has 2 big disadvantages: the price, but also the bulk. With me, a 50mm M-lens with that bulk will not get much use; that's also why I did not get one of the Chinese 50 0.95 or f/1 lenses which cost around 600 (?) euro. The Nokton 1.0 is a good middle-ground, and at the upper limit of what I'm willing to carry on a walk in the city.I've seen amazing work done with the Noctilux though. But this can be said about any lens I guess, from the lowly kit-lenses to the ultra-expensive stuff, and everything in between. As you say, the photographer's skill can make a big difference, both in the shooting and in the processing.
SafariBob
Sjak wrote:SafariBob wrote:This is a really excellent comparison, and I had forgotten how much better the Nokton really is on everything except color fringing. The only defense left for the noctilux is that it is softer, but in a nice way. If you look at samples online, particularly shot at night (noct) I would say they are nicer from the 'lux, but that could be photographer skill also.There's nothing wrong with preferring one or the other. Test charts are useless to point out personal preferences.For me, the Noctilux 0.95 has 2 big disadvantages: the price, but also the bulk. With me, a 50mm M-lens with that bulk will not get much use; that's also why I did not get one of the Chinese 50 0.95 or f/1 lenses which cost around 600 (?) euro. The Nokton 1.0 is a good middle-ground, and at the upper limit of what I'm willing to carry on a walk in the city.I've seen amazing work done with the Noctilux though. But this can be said about any lens I guess, from the lowly kit-lenses to the ultra-expensive stuff, and everything in between. As you say, the photographer's skill can make a big difference, both in the shooting and in the processing.Very true.
Rexgig0
SafariBob wrote:Rexgig0 wrote:aknyc wrote:the CV 50 f1 is smaller and lighter than Noctilux 0.95, but leica has the edge on constant and sharpness.Have you used both the Nokton 50mm f/1.0 VM, and the Leica Noctilux-M 50mm f/0.95? I am not meaning to be argumentative, but, as the owner of the Nokton f/1.0, am simply wondering whether the Noctilux f/0.95 should resume its place on my eventual-grail-quest list. (I am in the camp that believes that one can never own too many Fifties,but, justifying the allocating of the funds to a Noctilux would not be an easy task.)leaving money out of the question, I prefer the noctilux bokeh, and would probably get that if I was planning on shooting wide open.Edit: after seeing the comparison on Fred Miranda again, hard to justify the 'lux.Thanks for posting your perspective. Indeed, the comparison images posted at Fred Miranda’s forum helped convince me to buy the Nokton f/1.0, and to stop lusting for a Noctilux f/0.95. Another helpful resource was Generic Photographer’s you-tube presentations. I was seeing Nokton f/1.0 images that convinced me that I was not going to be “happier” with a Noctilux f/0.95, and the smaller size, and lighter weight, of the Nokton f/1.0 provided the rest of the equation. Plus, the icing on the cake was the visual aesthetic of the Nokton f/1.0, with a more vintage/classic look, than that of the Noctilux f/0.95.I knew that neither the Nokton nor the Noctilux would be displacing or replacing my most-favored 50mm M-mount lens, the Summilux-M 50mm ASPH.Life can be beautiful!