D500 vs Z7 for landscape and walking around

Peace_VN

Z7+Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-200mm f/4 SD500+Nikon AF-S 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED DX VRCаn I ask have anyone try to compare that? My reason for the pick is the weight.I currently have d500 +150-600 for bird. Want to get a camera for some landscape and walking around town things.I nearly get the d850 as big brother of d500 but then I saw z7. But if I get z7, I will only put the 28-200 lens as I don't want to change lens on that. Would the quality be much better than d500 or now?Regards


n057

Weird question. It is as if you wanted a different car for going to the movies than for going to the restaurant ...What is your major consideration? Weight? Image quality? Or what?JC Some cameras, some lenses, some computers


Parry Johnson

Peace_VN wrote:Z7+Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-200mm f/4 SD500+Nikon AF-S 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED DX VRCаn I ask have anyone try to compare that? My reason for the pick is the weight.I currently have d500 +150-600 for bird. Want to get a camera for some landscape and walking around town things.I nearly get the d850 as big brother of d500 but then I saw z7. But if I get z7, I will only put the 28-200 lens as I don't want to change lens on that. Would the quality be much better than d500 or now?RegardsOf course, there are both advantages and disadvantages with a Z7/Z7ii:Advantages: 1. More resolution at full-frame with your 150-600. 2. Crop 21mp DX is just as good as your D500, but in a smaller package. 3. Focus peaking and zoom in option in the viewfinder, eg when using that long lens on a tripod for critical focus. 4. IBIS -- useful for all lenses. 5. AF face detection for animals. 6. Adaptability with practically all other companies' lenses (so a cheaper, older 800mm f5.6 is now possible). 7. Focus points not limited to central region of the frame. 8. Most new lenses are better optically.Disadvantages: 1. Cost 2. AF may not be as good (in some situations -- really, you have to get used to it, and you might like it better, as I do. 3. Most new lenses are more expensive, not quite as durable and none will fit your DSLR. 4. FTZ adapter is fiddly and msy be prone to damage, especially if used with lage, heavy lenses like your 150-600. 5. If you intend on using it mainly in DX crop mode, you're not using the full potential of the sensor -- get a Z50 instead -- it's cheaper and the sensor is more like what you're used to (with other downgrades.


cyuill2007

The D500 can produce great photos of all kinds. My first thought was to get an 18-140mm lens for your D500. That combo should serve you well. And it won’t cost a lot.But are you looking for a second body? If so, D500 supply is very erratic. It appears that Nikon has stopped production of that camera, so it is unlikely that you will be able to find a new one. And used copies tend to sell quickly when they become available.The Z7 will be a costlier choice. But the higher resolution sensor should capture more detail. And you can set the shutter to electronic, which will make the camera virtually silent - better for street photography. Z7 users seem to be happy with their cameras. But you won’t be able to use the 24-200mm Z lens on your D500, if that is something that you might want to do.Good luck with making a decision.


Richard Dutton

Unless you specifically want high mpx then a D500 will do a good job of most genres of photography.I don't use superzooms on FF or crop and I don't know any of the  the 18-x.  I read, as you do, that the 24-200 is very good for its zoom range however.   I used a 24-70/4 kit and a 10-30/4, together with the af-p 70-300 on my Z6 which quite compact for general FF photography but I am tending to switch back to crop DSLR's for most things now except for legacy glass and that 14-30 WA.If you are bothered about weight for a second camera then I suggest that you have a serious look at m43. For all but a small number of specialised cases, m43 wil deliver high IQ at a large saving in system weight: I suggest an Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark2 and the Olympus Pro 12-100/4 ( used ).


rgs_45

Peace_VN wrote:Z7+Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-200mm f/4 SD500+Nikon AF-S 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED DX VRCаn I ask have anyone try to compare that? My reason for the pick is the weight.I currently have d500 +150-600 for bird. Want to get a camera for some landscape and walking around town things.I nearly get the d850 as big brother of d500 but then I saw z7. But if I get z7, I will only put the 28-200 lens as I don't want to change lens on that. Would the quality be much better than d500 or now?RegardsMy response to another post:Me? I hate switching lenses in the field. I have 2 bodies, one dedicated to wildlife and one for landscape which I also use for people/events, etc.My wildlife set up consist of a D500 which I just got used a few months ago (for a great price) with the Nikon 200-500/5.6. This is my "stop gap" wildlife set up until Nikon will release the 200-600 in the future. Once it comes out, I will probably get another Z7 ii (used) and as you mentioned, use the crop mode for more reach. If Nikon ever come out wit a "PRO" DX Z replacement (baby Z9 or whatever Nikon calls it), I will get that body and the 200-600 and it will be my dedicated wildlife setup. I will be using this set up for year or two even when the Z DX replacement comes out this year.My landscape set up (walk around kit) is a Z7 ii with the 24-120/4.0 Z lens. This will be my kit for the next few years.I tend to upgrade camera bides every 3-4 years. With the Z bodies, it will future proof my set up as Nikon stop making DLSR's.A good used Z7 will do you good.- Rich -


Peace_VN

rgs_45 wrote:Peace_VN wrote:Z7+Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-200mm f/4 SD500+Nikon AF-S 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED DX VRCаn I ask have anyone try to compare that? My reason for the pick is the weight.I currently have d500 +150-600 for bird. Want to get a camera for some landscape and walking around town things.I nearly get the d850 as big brother of d500 but then I saw z7. But if I get z7, I will only put the 28-200 lens as I don't want to change lens on that. Would the quality be much better than d500 or now?RegardsMy response to another post:Me? I hate switching lenses in the field. I have 2 bodies, one dedicated to wildlife and one for landscape which I also use for people/events, etc.My wildlife set up consist of a D500 which I just got used a few months ago (for a great price) with the Nikon 200-500/5.6. This is my "stop gap" wildlife set up until Nikon will release the 200-600 in the future. Once it comes out, I will probably get another Z7 ii (used) and as you mentioned, use the crop mode for more reach. If Nikon ever come out wit a "PRO" DX Z replacement (baby Z9 or whatever Nikon calls it), I will get that body and the 200-600 and it will be my dedicated wildlife setup. I will be using this set up for year or two even when the Z DX replacement comes out this year.My landscape set up (walk around kit) is a Z7 ii with the 24-120/4.0 Z lens. This will be my kit for the next few years.I tend to upgrade camera bides every 3-4 years. With the Z bodies, it will future proof my set up as Nikon stop making DLSR's.A good used Z7 will do you good.- Rich -thank youwould you consider the Nikon Z 18-200 over the 24-120/4.0 ? for landscape and walk around? (not portrait or lowlight)http://www.pureeye.art https://www.flickr.com/photos/pureeye/ https://www.instagram.com/pure.eye.photography


rgs_45

Peace_VN wrote:rgs_45 wrote:Peace_VN wrote:Z7+Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-200mm f/4 SD500+Nikon AF-S 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED DX VRCаn I ask have anyone try to compare that? My reason for the pick is the weight.I currently have d500 +150-600 for bird. Want to get a camera for some landscape and walking around town things.I nearly get the d850 as big brother of d500 but then I saw z7. But if I get z7, I will only put the 28-200 lens as I don't want to change lens on that. Would the quality be much better than d500 or now?RegardsMy response to another post:Me? I hate switching lenses in the field. I have 2 bodies, one dedicated to wildlife and one for landscape which I also use for people/events, etc.My wildlife set up consist of a D500 which I just got used a few months ago (for a great price) with the Nikon 200-500/5.6. This is my "stop gap" wildlife set up until Nikon will release the 200-600 in the future. Once it comes out, I will probably get another Z7 ii (used) and as you mentioned, use the crop mode for more reach. If Nikon ever come out wit a "PRO" DX Z replacement (baby Z9 or whatever Nikon calls it), I will get that body and the 200-600 and it will be my dedicated wildlife setup. I will be using this set up for year or two even when the Z DX replacement comes out this year.My landscape set up (walk around kit) is a Z7 ii with the 24-120/4.0 Z lens. This will be my kit for the next few years.I tend to upgrade camera bides every 3-4 years. With the Z bodies, it will future proof my set up as Nikon stop making DLSR's.A good used Z7 will do you good.- Rich -thank youwould you consider the Nikon Z 18-200 over the 24-120/4.0 ? for landscape and walk around? (not portrait or lowlight)http://www.pureeye.art https://www.flickr.com/photos/pureeye/ https://www.instagram.com/pure.eye.photographyThe 24-200 (if that's what you meant) is a good lens. I was debating between this for the extra reach and the 24-120/4.0 S for the constant aperture, decided with the 24-120/4.0. For what you're intending, the 24-200 will suit you very well.


Peace_VN

rgs_45 wrote:Peace_VN wrote:rgs_45 wrote:Peace_VN wrote:Z7+Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-200mm f/4 SD500+Nikon AF-S 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED DX VRCаn I ask have anyone try to compare that? My reason for the pick is the weight.I currently have d500 +150-600 for bird. Want to get a camera for some landscape and walking around town things.I nearly get the d850 as big brother of d500 but then I saw z7. But if I get z7, I will only put the 28-200 lens as I don't want to change lens on that. Would the quality be much better than d500 or now?RegardsMy response to another post:Me? I hate switching lenses in the field. I have 2 bodies, one dedicated to wildlife and one for landscape which I also use for people/events, etc.My wildlife set up consist of a D500 which I just got used a few months ago (for a great price) with the Nikon 200-500/5.6. This is my "stop gap" wildlife set up until Nikon will release the 200-600 in the future. Once it comes out, I will probably get another Z7 ii (used) and as you mentioned, use the crop mode for more reach. If Nikon ever come out wit a "PRO" DX Z replacement (baby Z9 or whatever Nikon calls it), I will get that body and the 200-600 and it will be my dedicated wildlife setup. I will be using this set up for year or two even when the Z DX replacement comes out this year.My landscape set up (walk around kit) is a Z7 ii with the 24-120/4.0 Z lens. This will be my kit for the next few years.I tend to upgrade camera bides every 3-4 years. With the Z bodies, it will future proof my set up as Nikon stop making DLSR's.A good used Z7 will do you good.- Rich -thank youwould you consider the Nikon Z 18-200 over the 24-120/4.0 ? for landscape and walk around? (not portrait or lowlight)http://www.pureeye.art https://www.flickr.com/photos/pureeye/ https://www.instagram.com/pure.eye.photographyThe 24-200 (if that's what you meant) is a good lens. I was debating between this for the extra reach and the 24-120/4.0 S for the constant aperture, decided with the 24-120/4.0. For what you're intending, the 24-200 will suit you very well.Thank u. My bad.It help me not to carry another 70-200 😝


bluzman

Peace_VN wrote:Z7+Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-200mm f/4 SD500+Nikon AF-S 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED DX VRCаn I ask have anyone try to compare that? My reason for the pick is the weight.I currently have d500 +150-600 for bird. Want to get a camera for some landscape and walking around town things.I nearly get the d850 as big brother of d500 but then I saw z7. But if I get z7, I will only put the 28-200 lens as I don't want to change lens on that. Would the quality be much better than d500 or now?RegardsSince the implication is that you want a dedicated second body, here's a question. Why a mirrorless body? A D5600 with the AF-S 18-140mm makes a fine light weight, economical, general purpose combo, for example.


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