For D200 (and CCD) fans

marcio_napoli

Hi,I've posted this weeks ago on the Open forum, but hey why not, this is where it actually belongs.The D200 was my first pro camera.Way back in 2007, I decided to attempt a pro career, so I would constantly look DPR reviews of Canon and Nikon models.Even then, as a total noob, I could clearly see the D200 special colors, even against the (also special) Canon 5D.I remember very clearly the definying factor was the colors (and yeah, money too lol)So I grabbed one and couldn't be more impressed.Nowadays most of us are jaded, we take everything for granted, so fewer things remain romantic.But coming from a Sony A100 and years using P&S at the time, I remember being gobsmacked with the DR and colors of the D200.It really was a shock how good pro cameras were.Very soon after, at a magnificent workshop with a renowned photographer (mentioned in the video), I noticed his camera was a D200, which only made it tastier that I had the same camera.For those interested, this is a nostalgic love letter to the D200. (most of the footage is from 2011)For this video I grabbed a 2nd copy, so I'll be shooting a lot of things with the D200.It's not just nostalgia, it's indeed a very special breed of a camera worthy of shooting into 2022, 23, 30, 40...Best regards,


rscott900ss

I love mine and enjoyed the video.It's hard to believe you can find good D200 bodies at places like MPB for under a hundred US Dollars.  They currently show one in "Excellent" condition for $109.00!I keep mine in my car 24/7 with a AF-S DX 35mm f/1.8G mounted and an AF-S DX 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G, an AF-S 50mm f/1.8G and an AF 180mm f/2.8 in the bag.Always at the ready!


marcio_napoli

rscott900ss wrote:I love mine and enjoyed the video.It's hard to believe you can find good D200 bodies at places like MPB for under a hundred US Dollars. They currently show one in "Excellent" condition for $109.00!I keep mine in my car 24/7 with a AF-S DX 35mm f/1.8G mounted and an AF-S DX 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G, an AF-S 50mm f/1.8G and an AF 180mm f/2.8 in the bag.Always at the ready!Hi Scott,Sorry for the late reply, I'm too grumpy these days considering Brazil's robbery at the elections.Been switching on and off visits to DPRBut hey, thank you for watching!Yeah, it's absolutely insane the D200 can be had for so little money.Even here in Brazil with everything costing 10x more, I've got mine seen in the video for about BR$ 1.300, which is cheap for a camera around here.In the US, for 100 bucks?? I'd make a collection!One for the car, one for the office, one for the backyard, for the bedroom lolIt's a great looking camera, feels great in the hands, feels premium, great colors, special CCD flavour, carries the honor to be the last of a kind, and it's insanely cheap.What's not to like, right?These are somewhat recent, for an upcoming D200 "review".I like to stress that out, so it doesn't look a nostalgia covered POV.  This camera is getting love now, in 2022 and up.Really a Nikon hidden gem.When people (in gear forums, let's stress that out too) say 5 years is an eternity in digital photography, I really wonder if those people really practice photography or just collect gear.They should know a 17 yo camera like the D200 can produce results indistinguishable from modern gear.Best regards,


Models By Day

When I bought my D300 I planned to use it for 5 years and I actually did then I bought the D7100.I'm comparing the D300 to my other cameras results and always get the WOW feeling.I upgraded from D50 (has a CCD) to D300.I had a change to borrow a 17-55 nice lens.


TheFiend

I bought my first D200 just as the D300 was released. I'll admit I did lust after the D300 but was happy with the D200. Only reason I sold it was I wanted a lighter camera for travelling.2 years ago I bought another one and re-discovered my love for the camera. It's still impresses despite being a 17 year old design.I switched to FX last year and got rid of my DX lenses I recently acquired a mint 17-55mm DX for my D200.Also having experienced how well the D200 has lasted I had no qualms about buying a D700 earlier this year, And both, IMHO, are legendary cameras!!!


Bob A L

They are timeless. Mine had been in a drawer unused for quite some years and during covid lockdowns I got to dragging out old cameras and acting like they were newly purchased cameras. My D200 never went back to the out of service drawer. It happily lives with an old 28-200 screw drive Nikkor lens that I often have said is so sharp that you might cut your hand handling prints from it.  So it is still alive and resurrected today.


marcio_napoli

Bob A L wrote:They are timeless. Mine had been in a drawer unused for quite some years and during covid lockdowns I got to dragging out old cameras and acting like they were newly purchased cameras. My D200 never went back to the out of service drawer. It happily lives with an old 28-200 screw drive Nikkor lens that I often have said is so sharp that you might cut your hand handling prints from it. So it is still alive and resurrected today.Bob, I've read your D200 story a few times on the forums, and that's so very true that's almost scary.Let's get a bit philosophical.Where does this gear obssesion we see so often come from?We spend quite some bucks on toys, don't we all?We need to justify the costs, repeating ad nauseum to ourselves the new toy is an improvement.It has to be, of course, we threw money at it!And when photography alone is not (by itself) all the fun, we also need those new toys to re-ignite our passion, our justification to go out and shoot.For some people, going out requires new gear first.And let's not forget, there's ego in the equation too.Ego in the sense "I don't touch anything smaller than FF", or never less than 50 megapixels (I literally remember forum members saying that), or 15 stops DR.When you combine all those reasons above, it takes some massive self control, or journey of self discovery, to admit old cameras are exactly as good.I've just bought a Canon 5d (the original) after decades hearing it's uber special, which is another 17 yo camera.It turns out the files are INSANE, I've only ever seem such sharpness and clarity when shooting digital backs.But that's not all. I've seen shots from the 11mp 1Ds (mind you, posted recently) that have a wow factor I honestly never got from my 14 DR stops D800.So the story is, cameras have been great since forever.Not everyone realizes that because it conflicts with the upgrade agenda we all fall for at some point.If the camera you've had for a decade (or two) can be equally great, where is the justification for a new toy?Or if the old camera requires a bit of extra effort, skill, "being a photographer"... hmmm.... wait, did you say it requires effort? uhmmmm...Those thoughts bring up lots of internal conflicts.To be honest, one could shoot a Nat Geo cover with a D200 or D300 anyday,  and no one would notice.These older cameras are amazing.But as I said, it takes lots of self control and discovery to admit one doesn't need the latest toys.The 15 yo old toy collecting dust is equally as good. It has always been.17 yo Canon 5D17 yo HasselbladBest regards,


rscott900ss

marcio_napoli wrote:So the story is, cameras have been great since forever.You nailed it, my friend!


TheFiend

I can afford to buy a Z9 and z-lenses, but I don't want to, or need to, as I am more than happy shooting with what I have.


marcio_napoli

TheFiend wrote:I can afford to buy a Z9 and z-lenses, but I don't want to, or need to, as I am more than happy shooting with what I have.Yeah, I feel the need to clarify this too.If my arguments were like "the D200 (5D etc) is greatfor the money, good optionon a budget, if you can't afford the latest", that would be a disclaimer right at the start.I own 3 digital backs and lenses, for Hassy and Phase One system, plus Nikon stuff and now adding Canon.I defend vintage gear not because they're great for little money.They're just great, period, not related to budget.The fact you can also abuse less the wallet is just a welcomed extra.Best regards,


Models By Day

YupWhy spend $50,000+ on a HassySpend $50 on a D100/200 and Buy a Brand new Car so you can go on a trip with your Camera.


TheFiend

I knew a guy who was obsessed with owning what he called "The latest and greatest". He would argue that his 2008 Pontiac Vibe was better than my 25 year old classic Porsche and his Nikon D80 was better than my D200 as they were newer!!!


marcio_napoli

Models By Day wrote:YupWhy spend $50,000+ on a HassySpend $50 on a D100/200 and Buy a Brand new Car so you can go on a trip with your Camera.haha better clarify that too, so my comment won't look contraditory.My hassy and P1 are from the CCD era, with tech going back as old as 2005-2010.It's inexpensive for you guys, certainly not for me (paid 14k in local currency on a recently purchased back, because I live in a $hit hole).But for you, these cost the same as an average Canikon full frame.It puts on the table the same things the D200 does: gorgeous color, CCD rendering, a somewhat more oldschool look, more filmlike render.CCD Mamiya digital backThat above is circa 2005-2006 sensor tech.If you look the eyes at 1:1, you'll get what it's all about.It further proves the whole point:  cameras have always been great.Let's say that again, that's 2006 sensor tech.Buy for the look it offers, not for spec sheets bragging rights.The D200 puts the same on the table, that's why it gets love way up in 2022: great colors, vintage, yet very filmic CCD look.For the record, I wouldn't bother spending 10-25k USD in a modern CMOS Fuji GFX, Hassy or P1 even if I had such money (I don't).Those CMOS MF are just more of the same.  A loooot of money for what, just a Sony A7r in steroids, same look, same feel, same old.I really woudn't care, which is awesome as I don't need to break the bank.Best regards,


Models By Day

I hope this helpsModel Kirsten (my favourite Model and friend)


marcio_napoli

Models By Day wrote:I hope this helpsModel Kirsten (my favourite Model and friend)Hi,Great model, great lighting.Lovely shots, thanks for sharing!I love those odd comparisons, Hassy vs D300, the nerd in me finds that always fascinatingThose comparisons we rarely see are so much fun.The D300 is putting a great battle, as it should, it's a lovely camera.How did you like the 35-90? Not regarding to weight, for sure it weighs a ton, but IQ.I have a 50-110, and been thinking I need a wider zoom...Is the 35-90 worthy it?


Models By Day

I really liked the camera , it was not mine, the actual camera and Lens I don't remember much about them. The pictures were WOW After I got the Phocus software installed. If I recall my computer had fun time with the files then. It was 2009 I took 7 photos of the model.Back to Vintage 1/2 of D100 with the best lens ever made. Yes CCD sensor. Purchased Aug 5, 2005Had to crop it due to the backdrop.


StefanSC

First off, very nice shots and interesting clip. Well done.Secondly, it's not called photography for nothing... It is "writing with light" (rough translation) not "writing with whatever lines the pockets of Japanese camera manufacturers" :P.If you have good light or know how to create/master light and you have a clear vision of what you want to achieve, you can make most cameras sing, no matter how old they are.


F-1

Great camera and lovely colors. So good that I bought two D200's one for everyday use and one to keep for the future.


Richard Dutton

Need to read your post and this thread carefully. There are some super images posted here.I hadn't realised that the D200 had a CCD sensor - like the M9. - and 100 for a D200 vs 2k for an old M9 - what's that about I wonder ?Only know a little about those but the images I have seen ( probably mostly due to the photographer ) look somehow more vibrant than CMOS. Maybe its just an urban myth that they are more "filmic" but as a long time analogue user I like that look.I am not a fan of new just for the sake of it and my most used camera is actually the old Nikon 1 V1 which has a certain reputation for B&W rendering.A bit of quiet noise - a bit of grain like texture - who cares - I don't. I like to take pleasing pictures in the whole and not aim for reprographics. For birdees etc however, I wouldn't pass on a gift of a Z9.Thanks for your post - interesting and engaging.RichardPS just seen a D200 with just 5.5k clicks on MPB UK at £64 - worth a punt to try it out.


Richard Dutton

Lovely !!


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