Any way to stop EVF image preview

Bear Dale

Any way to stop EVF image preview and just have it on the back LCD screen only on a Z7?


PLShutterbug

Bear Dale wrote:Any way to stop EVF image preview and just have it on the back LCD screen only on a Z7?Do you mean image playback (automatically display the image just shot)?Note: Nikon calls the back LCD screen the monitor. I keep forgetting that so have a hard time finding things related to the back LCD in the manuals.This has bugged me as long as I’ve had my Z7. Change, since writing below. Thanks for making me think about this.I thought I had just found it with: Menu , Playback Menu, Image Review, On (monitor only), but page 158 in the latest manual says this only replays images on the monitor if you used the monitor to shoot the picture - i.e., if you are in Live View mode. If you use the EVF I can’t find any way to get playback to display on the monitor like used to happen with my D7100 and other DSLRs.It appears you can’t do that. Nikon may have figured that since you now have an EVF capable of replay, you can keep your eye to the viewfinder if you want that while using the EVF. If you are in the habit of half-pressing the shutter to frame the next shot then playback never happens, but if you don’t then you get playback after about a second. Half-pressing the shutter instantly restores live view. If you think about it, this is pretty convenient. It is actually less intrusive to your shooting flow since you don’t have to take your eye away from the viewfinder to look at the monitor; a side benefit is you no longer tell the world you’re chimping by looking at the monitor since it happens in the EVF. Use Playback Menu, Image Review, ON for this, and then you get playback on whichever display you used to shoot the picture.Setting that menu to OFF stops playback on both screens. Then you play back by pressing the playback button at the top-left of the camera back. This is what I’ve been doing for a year now, but i think I’ll leave this setting ON for a bit and see if I like it.I don’t know if this helps ...


Bear Dale

Yes, that monitor only option doesn't make it work like a 'dslr'.I'd love to have the option to turn off the review in the EFV and just the LCD like a DSLR.


beatboxa

Bear Dale wrote:Yes, that monitor only option doesn't make it work like a 'dslr'.I'd love to have the option to turn off the review in the EFV and just the LCD like a DSLR.I don't know because I keep image review off.But your best bet might be "Prioritize viewfinder."  When you hit play (for review) it displays on the rear screen.


Bear Dale

beatboxa wrote:Bear Dale wrote:Yes, that monitor only option doesn't make it work like a 'dslr'.I'd love to have the option to turn off the review in the EFV and just the LCD like a DSLR.I don't know because I keep image review off.But your best bet might be "Prioritize viewfinder." When you hit play (for review) it displays on the rear screen.Thanks for that, I will try it.


Bear Dale

Not sure if I'm just an idiot, but I can't work out how to do it


beatboxa

Bear Dale wrote:Not sure if I'm just an idiot, but I can't work out how to do itpush the button on the left of the evf a few times while looking through the viewfinder.


Ernie Misner

Bear Dale wrote:Yes, that monitor only option doesn't make it work like a 'dslr'.So when you get home and want to review the days shoot on the monitor, you are unable to even see ones on the monitor that you used the EVF to shoot?   Really?I'd love to have the option to turn off the review in the EFV and just the LCD like a DSLR.


PLShutterbug

Ernie Misner wrote:Bear Dale wrote:Yes, that monitor only option doesn't make it work like a 'dslr'.So when you get home and want to review the days shoot on the monitor, you are unable to even see ones on the monitor that you used the EVF to shoot? Really?No. Not “really.” When you press the play button you can review every single image you have shot.This discussion has focused primarily on the Image Review menu choice in the Playback menu. That choice controls whether and where images display immediately after shooting, not later and not whether they can be reviewed at all.The camera also, independently, has a button on the viewfinder hump, to the left, that controls how the viewfinder and monitor (Nikon’s name for the back LCD display) interact. Bear Dale was only talking about that function, not whether it is possible to review images. If you set this button to “monitor only” then you have disabled the monitor and everything happens in the EVF. You can still review images, but only in the EVF. If you change this button to a setting that re-enables the monitor then you can again see things on the monitor.But - you can always review every image shot, regardless whether you shot it from the EVF or the monitor.Mirrorless seems to enable - and demand - a bit different workflow compared to DSLR. It is a matter of readjusting your thinking and being open to changes rather than insisting on things working “the way they always have.” I’ve had to do that, myself. That said, if enough users write direct to Nikon and ask them to enable a more DSLR-like workflow where you use the EVF to compose and the monitor to review instantly, they may do that in an upcoming firmware update.


Bear Dale

What I'm finding difficult with bird shooting is having every shot I take previewing in the EVF and blocking me momentarily from seeing what is happening until I depress the shutter button to dismiss the last shot taken preview. It plays havoc with fast moving birds and taking single shots.I'd really just like to turn off preview in the EVF and have the shot show only on the rear LCD to chimp, It doesn't seem a possibility though.


michaeladawson

Bear Dale wrote:What I'm finding difficult with bird shooting is having every shot I take previewing in the EVF and blocking me momentarily from seeing what is happening until I depress the shutter button to dismiss the last shot taken preview. It plays havoc with fast moving birds and taking single shots.I'd really just like to turn off preview in the EVF and have the shot show only on the rear LCD to chimp, It doesn't seem a possibility though.I've never had image review turned on going all the way back to my D100.  I don't want every image I shoot to be displayed anywhere, EVF or rear LCD.  If I want to review a photo I'll intentionally press the playback button.Given that is how I've always operated I have my Z7 set up the same way.  I have the camera set up to"Prioritize Viewfinder".  Nothing comes up after each shot in the EVF or rear LCD.  When I actually want to review a shot I press the playback button.


beatboxa

Bear Dale wrote:What I'm finding difficult with bird shooting is having every shot I take previewing in the EVF and blocking me momentarily from seeing what is happening until I depress the shutter button to dismiss the last shot taken preview. It plays havoc with fast moving birds and taking single shots.I'd really just like to turn off preview in the EVF and have the shot show only on the rear LCD to chimp, It doesn't seem a possibility though.Like I said earlier, just turn off image review as I do, and use prioritize viewfinder.  This is from the Z6 user's manual:And I have mine set to "Off."So I fail to see how this doesn't seem to be a possibility to do...?


Digital Shutterbug

Who would have thought to look in the manual?


Bear Dale

Digital Shutterbug wrote:Who would have thought to look in the manual?What page of the manual sets out the option I want to achieve.


beatboxa

Bear Dale wrote:Digital Shutterbug wrote:Who would have thought to look in the manual?What page of the manual sets out the option I want to achieve.After these back-and-forths, I'm now starting to see a pattern forming very clearly...I don't think the camera, options, or UI are the problem.  I'm just going to be blunt:  it's sort of ridiculous that you keep posting that you can't find the answer.


Bear Dale

beatboxa wrote:Bear Dale wrote:Digital Shutterbug wrote:Who would have thought to look in the manual?What page of the manual sets out the option I want to achieve.After these back-and-forths, I'm now starting to see a pattern forming very clearly...I don't think the camera, options, or UI are the problem. I'm just going to be blunt: it's sort of ridiculous that you keep posting that you can't find the answer.Of course I've tried everything multiple times to get it the desired outcome that I posted originally -Any way to stop EVF image preview and just have it on the back LCD screen only on a Z7?I can't get it to work, regardless of any setting that I try (multiple multiple times).


Digital Shutterbug

Bear Dale wrote:Digital Shutterbug wrote:Who would have thought to look in the manual?What page of the manual sets out the option I want to achieve.beatbox gave you the best option possible. No, it's not precisely what you want, but it's the best the camera has to offer.I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate a bit. I don't think the camera has the necessary hardware to ever be able to do what you want. There appears to be a single video output signal that is simply switched between the EVF and the monitor. To display a previously recorded image on one display and simultaneously display the output from the sensor on the other display would require considerably more hardware, not to mention firmware. This may even be beyond the ability of the processor. It is currently not able to handle metering, focusing, etc. while displaying a previously recorded image. There is a delay for those things to happen before capturing an image if you are reviewing a previously recorded image. I doubt that the sensor is even being read while reviewing an image.I'm not privy to Nikon's engineering. It's just my guess based on what I see happening with the displays as they are currently configurable.


Bear Dale

Digital Shutterbug wrote:Bear Dale wrote:Digital Shutterbug wrote:Who would have thought to look in the manual?What page of the manual sets out the option I want to achieve.beatbox gave you the best option possible. No, it's not precisely what you want, but it's the best the camera has to offer.I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate a bit. I don't think the camera has the necessary hardware to ever be able to do what you want. There appears to be a single video output signal that is simply switched between the EVF and the monitor. To display a previously recorded image on one display and simultaneously display the output from the sensor on the other display would require considerably more hardware, not to mention firmware. This may even be beyond the ability of the processor. It is currently not able to handle metering, focusing, etc. while displaying a previously recorded image. There is a delay for those things to happen before capturing an image if you are reviewing a previously recorded image. I doubt that the sensor is even being read while reviewing an image.I'm not privy to Nikon's engineering. It's just my guess based on what I see happening with the displays as they are currently configurable.Thanks


Ernie Misner

PLShutterbug wrote:Ernie Misner wrote:Bear Dale wrote:Yes, that monitor only option doesn't make it work like a 'dslr'.So when you get home and want to review the days shoot on the monitor, you are unable to even see ones on the monitor that you used the EVF to shoot? Really?No. Not “really.” When you press the play button you can review every single image you have shot.This discussion has focused primarily on the Image Review menu choice in the Playback menu. That choice controls whether and where images display immediately after shooting, not later and not whether they can be reviewed at all.The camera also, independently, has a button on the viewfinder hump, to the left, that controls how the viewfinder and monitor (Nikon’s name for the back LCD display) interact. Bear Dale was only talking about that function, not whether it is possible to review images. If you set this button to “monitor only” then you have disabled the monitor and everything happens in the EVF. You can still review images, but only in the EVF. If you change this button to a setting that re-enables the monitor then you can again see things on the monitor.But - you can always review every image shot, regardless whether you shot it from the EVF or the monitor.Ah, making sense now and thank you.  Still on my D810 and don't have a Z yet to follow along with.... but will!Mirrorless seems to enable - and demand - a bit different workflow compared to DSLR. It is a matter of readjusting your thinking and being open to changes rather than insisting on things working “the way they always have.” I’ve had to do that, myself. That said, if enough users write direct to Nikon and ask them to enable a more DSLR-like workflow where you use the EVF to compose and the monitor to review instantly, they may do that in an upcoming firmware update.


Ernie Misner

beatboxa wrote:Bear Dale wrote:What I'm finding difficult with bird shooting is having every shot I take previewing in the EVF and blocking me momentarily from seeing what is happening until I depress the shutter button to dismiss the last shot taken preview. It plays havoc with fast moving birds and taking single shots.I'd really just like to turn off preview in the EVF and have the shot show only on the rear LCD to chimp, It doesn't seem a possibility though.Like I said earlier, just turn off image review as I do, and use prioritize viewfinder. This is from the Z6 user's manual:And I have mine set to "Off."Better battery life too I bet.So I fail to see how this doesn't seem to be a possibility to do...?


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