Workflow for a trip

mbrphoto

Hey all - Not sure this is the best place but thought I'd start here since I'll be taking my Z7II.Heading to Ireland for 2 weeks and will be shooting between my DJI Mini3, iPhone and Z7II.  Will not be taking a laptop, only my iPad Pro.  What's the best workflow here with  the intermediate goal of moving the files to LR mobile and hopefully backing up to the cloud.  Ultimate goal is to just import somehow the mobile LR catalog into LRCC when I get back.  I've never tried this before so curious if anyone has used something like this?Thanks!Mark


RWN Photo

Why are you just taking the iPad Pro and not a laptop?I could see not taking a laptop to save space, but it seems like you are going to do a lot of editing on the trip. That seems to then make the whole process more cumbersome, with transferring files to iPad, and/or the cloud, and then dealing with catalog moving later, etc.


PLShutterbug

mbrphoto wrote:Hey all - Not sure this is the best place but thought I'd start here since I'll be taking my Z7II.Heading to Ireland for 2 weeks and will be shooting between my DJI Mini3, iPhone and Z7II. Will not be taking a laptop, only my iPad Pro. What's the best workflow here with the intermediate goal of moving the files to LR mobile and hopefully backing up to the cloud. Ultimate goal is to just import somehow the mobile LR catalog into LRCC when I get back. I've never tried this before so curious if anyone has used something like this?Thanks!MarkI did a trip to Hawaii with my Z7 (not ii) in August. I tried using the BnB's WiFi to transfer to my personal SAN back here at my home, which really shouldn't be that much slower than uploading to any other Cloud storage since the real bottleneck was the upload speed at the BnB - and that will be your bottleneck, too.Here at my house I have 100Mb/sec download but only 6.5Mb/sec up (I just tested it using speedtest.net). You'll have the same problem wherever you are - upload speed is generally just a fraction of download speed.Anyway ... it took more than 8 hours to upload 20GB of images from my laptop computer to my SAN. I don't really think relying on a Cloud backup solution is a good idea - you may never be in one place long enough to effect a backup.Your other limit is going to be the storage capacity of your iPad Pro. A 128GB model will get filled really fast. It really depends on how many images you shoot.My suggestion? Take your laptop anyway, or try and find out in advance whether you will have anyplace you can copy files from your camera's card to another storage medium. I have a 1TB Crucial X6 portable SSD that plugs in via USB-C and that is pretty fast, and that's what I ended up using. If you get something like that you'll have plenty of storage, and you can copy from your XQD/CFe/SD card to the iPad Pro or laptop, then from there down to the SSD.I'll say I always shoot RAW, so 46-70MB files. If you shoot JPG then your sizes and transfer rates will be smaller/faster.Finally, I ended up doing some culling in-camera before transferring. It is klunky but I figured it was still faster to do that in lulls than waiting for everything to go to the Cloud.I hope this helps.


John Retsal

I can't speak to LR's capabilities but my simple process is to, every night at the hotel...Now, I don't ever plan on doing any editing while on any trip. All that will be done at home.


capanikon

I'd bring the camera and no iPad nor laptop.Store all the images to camera memory cards. Bring a few along.Don't edit on your vacay.Don't upload to the cloud.Edit all your stuff at home when you get back.


John Retsal

capanikon wrote:I'd bring the camera and no iPad nor laptop.Store all the images to camera memory cards. Bring a few along.Don't edit on your vacay.Don't upload to the cloud.Edit all your stuff at home when you get back.Agree with not editing on your vacation.But, depending on how special or unique the trip is, the risk, no matter how small, of losing any photos makes me more than happy to upload to the cloud while I sleep.


mbrphoto

Thanks for all the tips!!The only editing I was going to do was keyword and maybe some brief edits on ones I'll be sending into my group chat or Insta.  I like to do that in any down time in the eveningWas hoping to keep it light and not bring the laptopYea, an SSD is probably a good idea will check what I have there.Thanks everyone!!


jjz2

capanikon wrote:I'd bring the camera and no iPad nor laptop.Store all the images to camera memory cards. Bring a few along.Don't edit on your vacay.Don't upload to the cloud.Edit all your stuff at home when you get back.This is the way, if you want to do social stuff, just use phone and post the real stuff later. Do this every trip.


NickZ2016

It depends on how much you're shooting and how important everything is to you.I bring a laptop and an external drive. Everything gets copied to both by Nikon's transfer program. When I get home I plug the drive into my desktop and copy off that.I need the laptop for other reasons so the only added hardware is the small drive.


Barleyman

Check out this video on LR while traveling.(103) Simple TIPS for using LIGHTROOM with a laptop and iPad - YouTubeLast time I researched using lr mobile, then transferring edits to LRC, I could not figure out how to do it.


gladers

mbrphoto wrote:Hey all - Not sure this is the best place but thought I'd start here since I'll be taking my Z7II.Heading to Ireland for 2 weeks and will be shooting between my DJI Mini3, iPhone and Z7II. Will not be taking a laptop, only my iPad Pro. What's the best workflow here with the intermediate goal of moving the files to LR mobile and hopefully backing up to the cloud. Ultimate goal is to just import somehow the mobile LR catalog into LRCC when I get back. I've never tried this before so curious if anyone has used something like this?Thanks!MarkHello!I practised this a month ago when I walked to Santiago de Campostella with a backpack. I packed my Z6, but no computer. I just used my iPhone 12 with Lightroom CC, just the way you plan to do. This hike passes through the Galician countryside. I never slept more than one night at the same place. I sometimes had to rely on my cellphone for the connection with Internet and my Lightroom cloud, no wifi. It worked like a charm. Perfect. When i got home my Lightroom Classic synced down the files to my desktop, I guess you know the drill. I just used a cable from my camera to an Apple dongle connected to my iPhone. That's it. It worked seamlessly. I even did some culling and some basic editing in my phone. Not ideal, but it worked! I've tried to draw attention to this method on other forums, but no one really seems to understand the brilliance in doing it this way at least when you're travelling. I was forced to use this method without computer of weight reasons.


PCACGHTGI

mbrphoto wrote:Thanks for all the tips!!The only editing I was going to do was keyword and maybe some brief edits on ones I'll be sending into my group chat or Insta. I like to do that in any down time in the eveningWas hoping to keep it light and not bring the laptopYea, an SSD is probably a good idea will check what I have there.Thanks everyone!!In that case I’d suggest shoot raw to slot 1 and small or medium jpeg to slot 2. Upload those jpegs to your iPad for insta etc.If you have a sufficient capacity iPad you could also use it to back up your raws to the files app and from there to iCloud. I’ve done this before on a one month trip overseas. (Mine is a 512GB version). I did do some culling and editing on Lightroom CC and then managed to totally fail in bringing it all into Lightroom Classic when I got home and had to start over. Although that was probably operator error.After that experience I now travel with a MacBook Air and an external SSD. That way I can use LRC from the get go.


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