Z50: Has any converted to IR or Full Spectrum?

nkistrup

And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.Niels


sirhawkeye64

nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsNo, but I would suggest looking to buying a used one that's already converted (not a Z50, but something else).  I'm in the same boat, and saw a few entry-level crop sensor  DSLRs that were converted (I don't plan on doing a ton of IR photography myself, so I'm personally not going to spend a lot on it--the cameras in question cost less than the IR conversion itself).Bear in mind that doing so will void your warranty.  Although if you're going with a company like LifePixel, you can just buy a converted camera with warranty.  I don't knokw how it works out (I think LifePIxel picks up the risk on the camera having a warranty issue) but keep in mind that the price is about the same as if you bought it rom a regular retail store.  It's just if you have a problem, I think LifePIxel will handle the warranty issues for you whereas NIkon will refuse to do work since it was modified.


nkistrup

sirhawkeye64 wrote:nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsNo, but I would suggest looking to buying a used one that's already converted (not a Z50, but something else). I'm in the same boat, and saw a few entry-level crop sensor DSLRs that were converted (I don't plan on doing a ton of IR photography myself, so I'm personally not going to spend a lot on it--the cameras in question cost less than the IR conversion itself).Bear in mind that doing so will void your warranty. Although if you're going with a company like LifePixel, you can just buy a converted camera with warranty. I don't knokw how it works out (I think LifePIxel picks up the risk on the camera having a warranty issue) but keep in mind that the price is about the same as if you bought it rom a regular retail store. It's just if you have a problem, I think LifePIxel will handle the warranty issues for you whereas NIkon will refuse to do work since it was modified.Financially, the Z50 is a smart move because of my Nikon lenses.  (But I would rent a converted D810, to see which of lenses have hot spot issues.)Starting close to square 1; have the IR & hot mirror filters.  So if I REALLY want to continue w. IR, now is the time to choose a good IR body, since I have no known good IR performers.


Richard B99

nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsWell, not the Z50 but I had a full spectrum conversion done on my older D7200 and have been very pleased with it as a 24MP IR.  I mainly use at night with IR flash so the visible spectrum is not an issue.  In daylight I use a 720 cut and get very good results using liveview.  Mirrorless focussing will be easier / better than liveview so the Z50 is likely to be a good option.  I have to say I have had no noticeable hot spot issues with my Nikon lenses but it is a case by case basis.  I know some folk use the Z6 IR converted for night video pro work too with IR lighting.


nkistrup

Richard B99 wrote:nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsWell, not the Z50 but I had a full spectrum conversion done on my older D7200 and have been very pleased with it as a 24MP IR. I mainly use at night with IR flash so the visible spectrum is not an issue. In daylight I use a 720 cut and get very good results using liveview. Mirrorless focussing will be easier / better than liveview so the Z50 is likely to be a good option. I have to say I have had no noticeable hot spot issues with my Nikon lenses but it is a case by case basis. I know some folk use the Z6 IR converted for night video pro work too with IR lighting.Had issues w. Kolari Vision's IR Chrome & Spencer's Camera's Ultra Blue filters, and Sony's sensor that was probably the culprit.  If Lensrentals.com offered it, would rent a 850nm converted Z50.Lens are tricky.  Still not sure what specs define a good IR lens, but have seen evidence that the Zeiss Loxia & Sigma Art series are bad news.  And like you said, it's a case by case basis; different copies could exhibit different IR behavior.


honne

nkistrup wrote:sirhawkeye64 wrote:nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsNo, but I would suggest looking to buying a used one that's already converted (not a Z50, but something else). I'm in the same boat, and saw a few entry-level crop sensor DSLRs that were converted (I don't plan on doing a ton of IR photography myself, so I'm personally not going to spend a lot on it--the cameras in question cost less than the IR conversion itself).Bear in mind that doing so will void your warranty. Although if you're going with a company like LifePixel, you can just buy a converted camera with warranty. I don't knokw how it works out (I think LifePIxel picks up the risk on the camera having a warranty issue) but keep in mind that the price is about the same as if you bought it rom a regular retail store. It's just if you have a problem, I think LifePIxel will handle the warranty issues for you whereas NIkon will refuse to do work since it was modified.Financially, the Z50 is a smart move because of my Nikon lenses. (But I would rent a converted D810, to see which of lenses have hot spot issues.)Starting close to square 1; have the IR & hot mirror filters. So if I REALLY want to continue w. IR, now is the time to choose a good IR body, since I have no known good IR performers.http://luminescentphoto.com/blog/nikon-z-infrared-lens-performance-chart/


sirhawkeye64

nkistrup wrote:sirhawkeye64 wrote:nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsNo, but I would suggest looking to buying a used one that's already converted (not a Z50, but something else). I'm in the same boat, and saw a few entry-level crop sensor DSLRs that were converted (I don't plan on doing a ton of IR photography myself, so I'm personally not going to spend a lot on it--the cameras in question cost less than the IR conversion itself).Bear in mind that doing so will void your warranty. Although if you're going with a company like LifePixel, you can just buy a converted camera with warranty. I don't knokw how it works out (I think LifePIxel picks up the risk on the camera having a warranty issue) but keep in mind that the price is about the same as if you bought it rom a regular retail store. It's just if you have a problem, I think LifePIxel will handle the warranty issues for you whereas NIkon will refuse to do work since it was modified.Financially, the Z50 is a smart move because of my Nikon lenses. (But I would rent a converted D810, to see which of lenses have hot spot issues.)Starting close to square 1; have the IR & hot mirror filters. So if I REALLY want to continue w. IR, now is the time to choose a good IR body, since I have no known good IR performers.i would first rent one to see how much you like doing IR (that's what I'm doing) and then either buy a used camera that's already converted (that's my goal) or buy a cheaper one to convert (I think the Z50 is probably better to convert simply because of the cost) or if you have DX glass, maybe even consider a D3500.\I know for my needs at least, I won't be doing IR enough to justify spending $1000+ on the whole process, so I likely will look for a used converted camera myself;


_zedagive

I have a converted D5000 but am not very adept with post processing techniques. We need an IR forum on this site. I would think it's be more popular than 3D photography.


nkistrup

honne wrote:nkistrup wrote:sirhawkeye64 wrote:nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsNo, but I would suggest looking to buying a used one that's already converted (not a Z50, but something else). I'm in the same boat, and saw a few entry-level crop sensor DSLRs that were converted (I don't plan on doing a ton of IR photography myself, so I'm personally not going to spend a lot on it--the cameras in question cost less than the IR conversion itself).Bear in mind that doing so will void your warranty. Although if you're going with a company like LifePixel, you can just buy a converted camera with warranty. I don't knokw how it works out (I think LifePIxel picks up the risk on the camera having a warranty issue) but keep in mind that the price is about the same as if you bought it rom a regular retail store. It's just if you have a problem, I think LifePIxel will handle the warranty issues for you whereas NIkon will refuse to do work since it was modified.Financially, the Z50 is a smart move because of my Nikon lenses. (But I would rent a converted D810, to see which of lenses have hot spot issues.)Starting close to square 1; have the IR & hot mirror filters. So if I REALLY want to continue w. IR, now is the time to choose a good IR body, since I have no known good IR performers.http://luminescentphoto.com/blog/nikon-z-infrared-lens-performance-chart/Very helpful.  That means that 2 of my 4 Nikon lenses are in the excellent category (14-24, 70-200 f4).  Still leaves the 17-55 f2.8 & the Zeiss 50mm f2 as unknowns.  Don't care too much about the other 3 lenses, from an IR standpoint.Niels


nkistrup

_zedagive wrote:I have a converted D5000 but am not very adept with post processing techniques. We need an IR forum on this site. I would think it's be more popular than 3D photography.Don't know what infrared wavelength that you are shooting with, but when I used 830nm & 850nm filters on my Full Spectrum converted Sony a6300, found theExpo Discto be quite helpful.  Use it to set the custom white balance in the field.  You previews on the camera's screen will look close.  And the only thing that I did in Capture One, was zero out the exposure.  (Capture One was 2nd guessing me.)Agreed about the need for an infrared forum.


nkistrup

sirhawkeye64 wrote:nkistrup wrote:sirhawkeye64 wrote:nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsNo, but I would suggest looking to buying a used one that's already converted (not a Z50, but something else). I'm in the same boat, and saw a few entry-level crop sensor DSLRs that were converted (I don't plan on doing a ton of IR photography myself, so I'm personally not going to spend a lot on it--the cameras in question cost less than the IR conversion itself).Bear in mind that doing so will void your warranty. Although if you're going with a company like LifePixel, you can just buy a converted camera with warranty. I don't knokw how it works out (I think LifePIxel picks up the risk on the camera having a warranty issue) but keep in mind that the price is about the same as if you bought it rom a regular retail store. It's just if you have a problem, I think LifePIxel will handle the warranty issues for you whereas NIkon will refuse to do work since it was modified.Financially, the Z50 is a smart move because of my Nikon lenses. (But I would rent a converted D810, to see which of lenses have hot spot issues.)Starting close to square 1; have the IR & hot mirror filters. So if I REALLY want to continue w. IR, now is the time to choose a good IR body, since I have no known good IR performers.i would first rent one to see how much you like doing IR (that's what I'm doing) and then either buy a used camera that's already converted (that's my goal) or buy a cheaper one to convert (I think the Z50 is probably better to convert simply because of the cost) or if you have DX glass, maybe even consider a D3500.\I know for my needs at least, I won't be doing IR enough to justify spending $1000+ on the whole process, so I likely will look for a used converted camera myself;Background:Now I have 7 Nikon F mount lenses, and no idea which if any, are good IR performers.   Can test those lenses on a converted rental FX body to determine that.Definitely sticking with mirrorless w. my next camera conversion.  So yes, I know that I like IR.  And even a Z5 or Z6 would be cheap,  IF my glass is well-behaved.  The 17-55 f2.8 is the wild card ==> IF it's a good infrared lens, would be very tempted to buy & convert a Z50.The Z6 & Z7 have banding issues.  Does the Z50 have it as well?


honne

nkistrup wrote:honne wrote:nkistrup wrote:sirhawkeye64 wrote:nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsNo, but I would suggest looking to buying a used one that's already converted (not a Z50, but something else). I'm in the same boat, and saw a few entry-level crop sensor DSLRs that were converted (I don't plan on doing a ton of IR photography myself, so I'm personally not going to spend a lot on it--the cameras in question cost less than the IR conversion itself).Bear in mind that doing so will void your warranty. Although if you're going with a company like LifePixel, you can just buy a converted camera with warranty. I don't knokw how it works out (I think LifePIxel picks up the risk on the camera having a warranty issue) but keep in mind that the price is about the same as if you bought it rom a regular retail store. It's just if you have a problem, I think LifePIxel will handle the warranty issues for you whereas NIkon will refuse to do work since it was modified.Financially, the Z50 is a smart move because of my Nikon lenses. (But I would rent a converted D810, to see which of lenses have hot spot issues.)Starting close to square 1; have the IR & hot mirror filters. So if I REALLY want to continue w. IR, now is the time to choose a good IR body, since I have no known good IR performers.http://luminescentphoto.com/blog/nikon-z-infrared-lens-performance-chart/Very helpful. That means that 2 of my 4 Nikon lenses are in the excellent category (14-24, 70-200 f4). Still leaves the 17-55 f2.8 & the Zeiss 50mm f2 as unknowns. Don't care too much about the other 3 lenses, from an IR standpoint.NielsHere is another listing that includes the 17-55mm DX. Looks like a decent performer.https://kolarivision.com/articles/lens-hotspot-list/


nkistrup

Very helpful. That means that 2 of my 4 Nikon lenses are in the excellent category (14-24, 70-200 f4). Still leaves the 17-55 f2.8 & the Zeiss 50mm f2 as unknowns. Don't care too much about the other 3 lenses, from an IR standpoint.NielsHere is another listing that includes the 17-55mm DX. Looks like a decent performer.https://kolarivision.com/articles/lens-hotspot-list/Have seen KV's database before.  All of my lenses, even those listed because I could have one or more bad IR copies.Interested in the mirrorless bodies, and already know about the banding issues in the Z6 & Z7.  And still don't know enough about that.  The new Z5 has a different sensor, so there is hope for that.  But still know nothing about the Z50.


NIKART

nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsI have recently purchased a new Z5 with kit lens 24-50. The new body is currently being converted to full spectrum. Happy to share results with Hoya 720mm and B+W 093 filters.


nkistrup

NIKART wrote:nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsI have recently purchased a new Z5 with kit lens 24-50. The new body is currently being converted to full spectrum. Happy to share results with Hoya 720mm and B+W 093 filters.Appreciate that, but ended up buying a Sony A7iii, and converting that to 830nm.


SJB10

NIKART wrote:nkistrup wrote:And if so, how has in performed @ either 850nm or 830nm?My full spectrum converted Sony a6300 died, so considering a totally different direction for infrared.NielsI have recently purchased a new Z5 with kit lens 24-50. The new body is currently being converted to full spectrum. Happy to share results with Hoya 720mm and B+W 093 filters.Sorry to revive an old thread but just wondering how the Z5 worked out for infrared conversion?I really want to get a Z5/6/7 for 720nm conversion but have read stories of poor performance and banding?


Michael Firstlight

Me too - definitely has to be mirrorless Z body only. Mirrorless b/c then we can focus with no issues, view the effects in the EVF before capture, and Z for all the great Z glass I now have after having converted to all native Z glass from F-mount.I'm also considering a Z50 for the conversion.Regards, Mike


SJB10

Also considering Z50 actually


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