Is there a cord/hotshoe available besides the discontinued overpriced Sony option that will allow for off-camera flash with HSS? I have a wireless trigger but it will not sync via HSS with my Nissin i40. I am looking to handhold a flash at arms length using HSS so a cord would work well here. Hoping to find something for under $50. Thanks

SonyArtisan wrote:Is there a cord/hotshoe available besides the discontinued overpriced Sony option that will allow for off-camera flash with HSS? I have a wireless trigger but it will not sync via HSS with my Nissin i40. I am looking to handhold a flash at arms length using HSS so a cord would work well here. Hoping to find something for under $50. ThanksBeen looking for this for a while but I haven't found one. Would be real interested to see if there is one out there as well.

SonyArtisan wrote:Is there a cord/hotshoe available besides the discontinued overpriced Sony option that will allow for off-camera flash with HSS? I have a wireless trigger but it will not sync via HSS with my Nissin i40. I am looking to handhold a flash at arms length using HSS so a cord would work well here. Hoping to find something for under $50. ThanksBuy an FA-CS1M and an off-camera cable. If the flash lacks the Minolta-style four pin cable socket, simply get a second FA-CS1M to attach to the flash.http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1008160-REG/sony_facs1m_off_camera_shoe_for_alpha.html

Two FA-CS1M, and one FA-MC1AM cable to connect them.

sevo_stille wrote:Two FA-CS1M, and one FA-MC1AM cable to connect them.First, that cables been discontinued.Second the F-CS1M connected to the Sony flash will not provide eTTL since its not set up with the correct pins in the hotshoe.So lets restate. We are looking for a cable solution that retains all the capability you get if the Sony eTTL compatible flash is attached to the camera. At least that's what I want.Nikon and Canon both have these. And Sony wants to be a professional camera so start putting out essential accessories like a radio controlled flash system (not an IR based one).Phottix has claimed they would make an Odin that is with a Sony multi-interface shoe but I haven't seen it yet.

I've scoured sources, including Sony Support, for an MI-to-MI hot shoe off-camera, all-in-one cable and have come up with nothing. The closest is an overly expensive cobbled together mix of Sony adapters connected by cabling (including the one that's discontinued). It's not much more to buy the F20M flash and mount it on my A7RII to trigger, e.g., the F43 flash, which is what I have recently done to try out.What's odd is that I can readily buy such all-in-one cables for about $20 from various manufacturers that work for the previous generation of Sony flashes & hot shoe (which I also use) on other Alpha bodies that have the previous type of hot shoe.

Steve W wrote:sevo_stille wrote:Two FA-CS1M, and one FA-MC1AM cable to connect them.First, that cables been discontinued.It shows in stock at samys.com. If it is discontinued you might be able to get it from eBay, where you can sometimes also find the original Minolta version, the Cable CD. Either way, get one while you can.Second the F-CS1M connected to the Sony flash will not provide eTTL since its not set up with the correct pins in the hotshoe.Are you saying Sony put their Multi-Interface shoe on top of that thing without the pins under it? What makes you think so?So lets restate. We are looking for a cable solution that retains all the capability you get if the Sony eTTL compatible flash is attached to the camera. At least that's what I want.And that's what you'll get... but it will have to be the overpriced Sony option, which you didn't want.Nikon and Canon both have these. And Sony wants to be a professional camera so start putting out essential accessories like a radio controlled flash system (not an IR based one).Sony has had three years to show some practical support for the ridiculous MIS. Whoever championed it in the first place must have left the company.

sybersitizen wrote:Steve W wrote:sevo_stille wrote:Two FA-CS1M, and one FA-MC1AM cable to connect them.First, that cables been discontinued.It shows in stock at samys.com. If it is discontinued you might be able to get it from eBay, where you can sometimes also find the original Minolta version, the Cable CD. Either way, get one while you can.Second the F-CS1M connected to the Sony flash will not provide eTTL since its not set up with the correct pins in the hotshoe.Are you saying Sony put their Multi-Interface shoe on top of that thing without the pins under it? What makes you think so?So lets restate. We are looking for a cable solution that retains all the capability you get if the Sony eTTL compatible flash is attached to the camera. At least that's what I want.And that's what you'll get... but it will have to be the overpriced Sony option, which you didn't want.Nikon and Canon both have these. And Sony wants to be a professional camera so start putting out essential accessories like a radio controlled flash system (not an IR based one).Sony has had three years to show some practical support for the ridiculous MIS. Whoever championed it in the first place must have left the company.The cable that attaches is only got 4 or possibly with ground, 5 conductors. The MI interface has many more but you maybe right. I don't know for sure either way.

Steve W wrote:sybersitizen wrote:Steve W wrote:sevo_stille wrote:Two FA-CS1M, and one FA-MC1AM cable to connect them.First, that cables been discontinued.It shows in stock at samys.com. If it is discontinued you might be able to get it from eBay, where you can sometimes also find the original Minolta version, the Cable CD. Either way, get one while you can.Second the F-CS1M connected to the Sony flash will not provide eTTL since its not set up with the correct pins in the hotshoe.Are you saying Sony put their Multi-Interface shoe on top of that thing without the pins under it? What makes you think so?So lets restate. We are looking for a cable solution that retains all the capability you get if the Sony eTTL compatible flash is attached to the camera. At least that's what I want.And that's what you'll get... but it will have to be the overpriced Sony option, which you didn't want.Nikon and Canon both have these. And Sony wants to be a professional camera so start putting out essential accessories like a radio controlled flash system (not an IR based one).Sony has had three years to show some practical support for the ridiculous MIS. Whoever championed it in the first place must have left the company.The cable that attaches is only got 4 or possibly with ground, 5 conductors. The MI interface has many more but you maybe right. I don't know for sure either way.I figured you were actually referring to the conductors in the cable. Four conductors are all that have ever been needed for the flash capabilities you're seeking. All those other pins in the shoe are superfluous connectors for a microphone or other things that don't exist.

Steve W wrote:The cable that attaches is only got 4 or possibly with ground, 5 conductors. The MI interface has many more but you maybe right. I don't know for sure either way.Unless the A7 series does something different from the Nex series, four wires are all you will need! While I have never tried the two-adapter solution, I have successfully used this cable, one adapter and the Minolta socket counterpart to use Minolta flashes on the Nex. The issue with the double adapter and cable solution is that it does not support any of the non-flash pins present in the socket, which does upset the cine crowd - which have more need for off-camera microphones and control monitors than photographers are for off-camera TTL flash.The said cable has another issue (and that probably is why it is discontinued) - it is a male to female extension cord (and will also do as the connector cable for the Minolta era threaded remote flash foot). To connect two of the same (female) adapters you'd obviously need a male to male cable (so you'd have to buy two cables, and cut and solder them)...

sevo_stille wrote:Steve W wrote:The cable that attaches is only got 4 or possibly with ground, 5 conductors. The MI interface has many more but you maybe right. I don't know for sure either way.Unless the A7 series does something different from the Nex series, four wires are all you will need! While I have never tried the two-adapter solution, I have successfully used this cable, one adapter and the Minolta socket counterpart to use Minolta flashes on the Nex. The issue with the double adapter and cable solution is that it does not support any of the non-flash pins present in the socket, which does upset the cine crowd - which have more need for off-camera microphones and control monitors than photographers are for off-camera TTL flash.The said cable has another issue (and that probably is why it is discontinued) - it is a male to female extension cord (and will also do as the connector cable for the Minolta era threaded remote flash foot). To connect two of the same (female) adapters you'd obviously need a male to male cable (so you'd have to buy two cables, and cut and solder them)...The said cable (Sony FA-MC1AM or Minolta Cable CD) is male-to-male...FA-MC1AMThe extension cable (Sony FA-EC1AM or Minolta Cable EX) is male-to-female...FA-EC1AM

Another possibility would be to get thisGodox TL-S cableand stick the required Sony adapters (ADP-AMA and ADP-MAA) on each end...Godox TL-SElegant? No, but less expensive than Sony's other solution.

sybersitizen wrote:Another possibility would be to get thisGodox TL-S cableand stick the required Sony adapters (ADP-AMA and ADP-MAA) on each end...Godox TL-SElegant? No, but less expensive than Sony's other solution.Yup. Similar cables (as well as single ended Minolta shoe/male four pin connector ones) were also made by Minolta and Sony - digging through the $1 bin at camera stores could be worth while...

Steve W wrote:sybersitizen wrote:Steve W wrote:sevo_stille wrote:Two FA-CS1M, and one FA-MC1AM cable to connect them.First, that cables been discontinued.It shows in stock at samys.com. If it is discontinued you might be able to get it from eBay, where you can sometimes also find the original Minolta version, the Cable CD. Either way, get one while you can.Second the F-CS1M connected to the Sony flash will not provide eTTL since its not set up with the correct pins in the hotshoe.Are you saying Sony put their Multi-Interface shoe on top of that thing without the pins under it? What makes you think so?So lets restate. We are looking for a cable solution that retains all the capability you get if the Sony eTTL compatible flash is attached to the camera. At least that's what I want.And that's what you'll get... but it will have to be the overpriced Sony option, which you didn't want.Nikon and Canon both have these. And Sony wants to be a professional camera so start putting out essential accessories like a radio controlled flash system (not an IR based one).Sony has had three years to show some practical support for the ridiculous MIS. Whoever championed it in the first place must have left the company.The cable that attaches is only got 4 or possibly with ground, 5 conductors. The MI interface has many more but you maybe right. I don't know for sure either way.The Off-camera shoe has an MIS shoe and an MIS Foot. It only takes four pins to transmit flash into; the rest are all superfluous for flash. You can use two adapters with a cable. So, assuming you can source a CD cable, you'll be in the clear.

There are a few in the works but not yet in production.As Sony Artisans, I feel like we should we know each other since there are only 40 of us.Are you using an alias???

sybersitizen wrote:sevo_stille wrote:Steve W wrote:The cable that attaches is only got 4 or possibly with ground, 5 conductors. The MI interface has many more but you maybe right. I don't know for sure either way.Unless the A7 series does something different from the Nex series, four wires are all you will need! While I have never tried the two-adapter solution, I have successfully used this cable, one adapter and the Minolta socket counterpart to use Minolta flashes on the Nex. The issue with the double adapter and cable solution is that it does not support any of the non-flash pins present in the socket, which does upset the cine crowd - which have more need for off-camera microphones and control monitors than photographers are for off-camera TTL flash.The said cable has another issue (and that probably is why it is discontinued) - it is a male to female extension cord (and will also do as the connector cable for the Minolta era threaded remote flash foot). To connect two of the same (female) adapters you'd obviously need a male to male cable (so you'd have to buy two cables, and cut and solder them)...The said cable (Sony FA-MC1AM or Minolta Cable CD) is male-to-male...FA-MC1AMThe extension cable (Sony FA-EC1AM or Minolta Cable EX) is male-to-female...FA-EC1AMThe male to male is the discontinued one. That is the one you need if you want to use to of the hot show to cable adapters. If you have a HVL-F60M got off camera the cable you need is male-to-male I think.