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Chuck Yadmark

Professional Nikon shooter here, but always messing around with stuff that Nikon F (and now Z) mount doesn't give me.Been through many of the mirrorless systems over the years, starting with Samsung, then Nikon 1, then M43. I have a Nikon Z6 and a Z30Been doing a lot more video work past year which brought me to M43 at first.I'm a bit annoyed at the sheer number of battery types we have to deal with, I must have to deal with 10 different batteries. Anyhow, M43 led me to getting an Atomos Ninja V and its Sony battery, the NP-Fxxx type. The NP-F battery led me to an FDR-AX1 4kvideo camera, and then a NEX-FS700 for which I both got preposterous deals on. And now the FS700 brings me to E-Mount APS-C.I bought in quick order a 16-50mm PZ, 18-105/4 PZ, 55-210, and 10-18/4Well now that I've done that, time to look at APS-C sony cameras, sell off the M43 stuff.Got a great deal on an A6300.The Z30 really isn't doing anything for me that the A6300 won't do, and the Sony system has a lot more lenses going for it, so selling the Z30 as well.None of these things have come yet, they all were purchased over the past 3 days.


piticoto

Hi Chuck, try an A6400, or 6600 at a local store, or rental to get a feel. Video has significant rolling shutter if panning, or a fast move in the frame. Autofocus is great, to me. There is a new model ZV-E10 with gyro recording for stabisation in post procesing. It's smaller, no EVF, no mode dial, but a flip screen.I would skip 55-210, image through this lens not so good, plus mine got fungus in just three years after buying it new. In my house usually it's low humidity and I kept the lenses in a wooden drawer.


Chuck Yadmark

the a6300 is kind of incidental to my adventure here. I got it for 400 dollars and didn't want to go too nuts, at least at first.same goes for 55-210.  not for serious use.


PhotoFactor

Chuck Yadmark wrote:the a6300 is kind of incidental to my adventure here. I got it for 400 dollars and didn't want to go too nuts, at least at first.same goes for 55-210. not for serious use.The PZ 1650 is kind of crap for stills, but probably fine for video. Nice and small, too.If you want IBIS then it's the A6600, otherwise if you are tripod or gimbaling, any will do.The newest Sony APS-Cs are more video focused in features.


NorCal Jim

Greetings, Chuck!The Nikon F Series was my SLR choice during my film days. These days, I use two ILC systems (Sony APS-C and Micro Four Thirds). There is much to like about both systems. There is a wealth of information plus enthusiasm for these systems on YouTube. For Micro Four Thirds, I was especially fond of the videos presented by the late David Thorpe (RIP). For detailed reviews, I like Gordon Laing (cameralabs.com). For Sony APS-C, there is a young fellow on YouTube (ArthurR) who includes photo and video examples in his equipment reviews.I purchased a Sony a6000 in the first year of its release together with the 16-50mm kit lens and then experimented with various prime lenses and picked up a Sony/Zeiss 16-70mm f/4 (walking around) lens. Due to overheating issues in video, I chose a Micro Four Thirds combo (GH3 & 12-35mm f/2.8) just before the GH4 was announced. Eventually, I went back to Sony for sub 5 minute video clips (a5100) and switched to MFT for photography. I downsized my Sony equipment, keeping two a5100 cameras, four primes and a kit lens (underwhelming for photos but decent for video).As you know, quality lenses can transform the results we get from our cameras as well as our enjoyment. This past year, I decided that it was time to ramp up again with Sony APS-C. I purchased a number of quality lenses including the f/1.4 Sigma trio (16mm, 30mm and 56mm). I wanted to get an a6600 camera but my preferred retailer was sold out so I picked up a used a6300 in excellent condition to hold me over. I also wanted to upgrade my a5100 cameras, so I purchased a ZV-E10 for video. Check out Mark Bennett's Camera Crisis on YouTube for a Canadian comedian & photo/video enthusiast for multiple videos featuring this camera.In contrast to my film days (pick a system and stick with it for decades), my experience with mirrorless interchangeable cameras has shown me that the features that I most desire in a camera are not all present in a single camera or brand. I admire Sony cameras for their wonderfully reliable autofocus and focus tracking. I admire Olympus cameras for their class-leading in body image stabilization. I admire FujiFilm cameras for their retro looks and control system (dedicated dials for shutter speed, exposure compensation and ISO settings plus lenses with aperture rings). I also admire FujiFilm for their film simulations.With 20/20 hindsight and years of camera equipment development by the various manufacturers plus their respective track records, I might make some different decisions if I was starting over but AF/focus tracking remains my chief priority, especially for video. In that regard, I am completely happy with Sony and the ZV-E10 for video for my modest video requirements. Most of my photographic enjoyment has been using Olympus cameras. While the a6300 is fine for photography, I simply don't enjoy using it as much as my Olympus cameras. With IBIS and AF improvements, FujiFilm is becoming more appealing to me, especially with their cameras that feature the retro style control system. At present, I have plenty of photography overlap as a result of using two ILC systems.  I expect to be spending more time with Sony APS-C for a personal photography project (photographing my wife's paintings).  Hopefully, I can better define a photography role for my a6300.  Otherwise, I might concentrate on video for my Sony equipment.Jim


math guy

NorCal Jim wrote:For Sony APS-C, there is a young fellow on YouTube (ArthurR) who includes photo and video examples in his equipment reviews.Jim+1 for Arthur R's excellent reviews


Markr041

Chuck Yadmark wrote:Professional Nikon shooter here, but always messing around with stuff that Nikon F (and now Z) mount doesn't give me.Been through many of the mirrorless systems over the years, starting with Samsung, then Nikon 1, then M43. I have a Nikon Z6 and a Z30Been doing a lot more video work past year which brought me to M43 at first.I'm a bit annoyed at the sheer number of battery types we have to deal with, I must have to deal with 10 different batteries. Anyhow, M43 led me to getting an Atomos Ninja V and its Sony battery, the NP-Fxxx type. The NP-F battery led me to an FDR-AX1 4kvideo camera, and then a NEX-FS700 for which I both got preposterous deals on. And now the FS700 brings me to E-Mount APS-C.I bought in quick order a 16-50mm PZ, 18-105/4 PZ, 55-210, and 10-18/4Well now that I've done that, time to look at APS-C sony cameras, sell off the M43 stuff.Got a great deal on an A6300.The Z30 really isn't doing anything for me that the A6300 won't do, and the Sony system has a lot more lenses going for it, so selling the Z30 as well.None of these things have come yet, they all were purchased over the past 3 days.If you are serious about video, and want Sony APS-C, then you want the Sony fx30. The key reason is that it allows shooting in 10bit color. It also has IBIS, so you can use the better Sony APS-C lenses handheld; my favorite is the 16-55 f2.8. The PZ 15-35 f4 is also very good. Boh are much better in every dimension - ergonimics, image quality - than the PZ 15-50.


Chuck Yadmark

someday, sure.  I read about all this stuff, and the super high end stuff too.But first I have some technical skills to improve and more clients to pick up before I get into the advanced stuff.


Markr041

Chuck Yadmark wrote:someday, sure. I read about all this stuff, and the super high end stuff too.But first I have some technical skills to improve and more clients to pick up before I get into the advanced stuff.I am not sure you are thinking correctly about this (I could be wrong):Just because the camera has advanced capabilities does not mean you have to use them, at least initially. If you foresee honing your skills so as to actually shoot good-looking video, then it might be a wise investment to pick the fx30 over any a6XXX, as in fact it is easier to use the fx30 for video than those models.The point is you cannot "get into the advanced stuff" with the a6XXX cameras. So you would be just paying more money by buying two cameras sequentially. If you actually make money, then the camera is an investment. a6XXX cameras are not good investments for video. Again, the fx30 is NOT more complicated to use, it just has more options, which you can ignore initially and then try out later.


Chuck Yadmark

it's only been a week since I made this decision, lol. The a6300 was more a replacement for a Panasonic GX85 than a video camera, a camera that could do decent 4K in a pinch.  I have a Nikon Z6/ Ninja V combo, and the Sony FDR-AX1 though it only records internally at 8bit 4:2:0.   I may very well get to the FX30 at some point.


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