An around the world camera of your choice
Sjak
mc-101 wrote:If you were going on a once-in-a-lifetime around the world trip, what camera and lenses would you take? Would you take a one-lens setup, a two-lens setup, or something else entirely?Probably just 1 lens. My experience travelling is that I'm usually fine with just a 50, but a bit wider often works better indoors for me. Also no need for the added complexity of a colour sensor.If picking from my current gear: M246 + Nokton 40mm 1.2. If it's a trip which includes prolonged periods of carrying my luggage all the time, then GR3x. A hypothetical 2-lens-setup would look vastly different, maybe a 21 + 75 or even 135; I like teles for landscape & cityscape. 40-to-50 is nicer for people-centric stuff.
Godfrey
mc-101 wrote:Dear Leica photo forum members,As the we near the end (of DPReview) ....If you were going on a once-in-a-lifetime around the world trip, what camera and lenses would you take? Would you take a one-lens setup, a two-lens setup, or something else entirely?I would like to hear your opinions and recommendations, perhaps based on your own experiences and shooting styles.Do you prefer the simplicity and versatility of a one-lens setup, such as the Leica 35mm f/2 Summicron-M, or do you prefer the flexibility of a two-lens setup, such as pairing a 28mm and 50mm lens together?Or, do you think that a Leica camera may not be the best option for this type of trip and would recommend another camera system entirely? If so, what would you recommend?I look forward to hearing your thoughts and recommendations.Done this many many times.And of course an iPad Pro for on-the-go image viewing and processing if I so desire.Of course, if I don't want to carry much at all, stick the 50mm with a green filter on the M4-2, and toss into a small bag with 5-10 rolls HP5 135-36 with my Sekonic L328 meter. No need to manage batteries, charging or any of that modern stuff.G
deednets
mc-101 wrote:Dear Leica photo forum members,As the we near the end (of DPReview) ....If you were going on a once-in-a-lifetime around the world trip, what camera and lenses would you take? Would you take a one-lens setup, a two-lens setup, or something else entirely?I would like to hear your opinions and recommendations, perhaps based on your own experiences and shooting styles.Do you prefer the simplicity and versatility of a one-lens setup, such as the Leica 35mm f/2 Summicron-M, or do you prefer the flexibility of a two-lens setup, such as pairing a 28mm and 50mm lens together?Or, do you think that a Leica camera may not be the best option for this type of trip and would recommend another camera system entirely? If so, what would you recommend?I look forward to hearing your thoughts and recommendations.Like Joshua mentioned, the Q2 comes to mind. I am currently in northern Vietnam, a little motorbike tour. Have a Sony A7IV with a 20/1.8 and a Batis 40/2 CF, but honestly, I could have left the Sony at home. I mean, not really, but close enough.The Q2 is a brilliant choice imho when the weather and light are less than ideal.On a world tour, I personally would possibly take the Q2, a Fuji X-T30 plus the 14/2.8 and the 50/2. And then would ponder the 35/1.4.But no SL, have met people with that monstrosity now and again, just heavy looking and possibly is.Deed
JohnLass
My heart would say my Leica M10 and Leica Elmarit-M 28mm f/2.8 ASPH, but my head would say my A7RV...
Zacarias
mc-101 wrote:Dear Leica photo forum members,As the we near the end (of DPReview) ....If you were going on a once-in-a-lifetime around the world trip, what camera and lenses would you take? Would you take a one-lens setup, a two-lens setup, or something else entirely?I would like to hear your opinions and recommendations, perhaps based on your own experiences and shooting styles.Do you prefer the simplicity and versatility of a one-lens setup, such as the Leica 35mm f/2 Summicron-M, or do you prefer the flexibility of a two-lens setup, such as pairing a 28mm and 50mm lens together?Or, do you think that a Leica camera may not be the best option for this type of trip and would recommend another camera system entirely? If so, what would you recommend?I look forward to hearing your thoughts and recommendations.Personally, I might wait for the rumored new Leica Q3. It is rumored to have the same 60 MP sensor as the Leica M11 which is Leica's best full frame M or mirrorless sensor to date. As described byLeica Rumors:Read more:https://leicarumors.com/2023/03/24/updated-leica-q3-camera-rumored-specifications.aspx/#ixzz7x4Wc4kCI
Godfrey
Waiting on rumors is a proven way to disappointment and lost opportunities.I'm not saying the Q3 might not happen, but if I'm going to go on a trip within six months, I want the camera I'm going to useNOWso that I can test it, use it, and be 100% comfortable with it long before I pack my bags and go.Beyond that, I don't see what the Q3 or Q2 offers me beyond what one has with an M10-R or M body and a Summicron-M 28mm f/2 ASPH lens. I don't want or need AF, certainly don't need a tilt screen, or any of the other convenience features. Simpler is better. And ... with the M, I could choose another lens if I preferred, even with a one-lens travel kit. Why pay that much for a camera limited to just one lens?This is why I've not bought any Q even though I think the Q2/Q2 Monochrom is a lovely camera...G
SafariBob
Around the world how? Cruise? Plane? Car?i shoot a lot of wildlife so for that I would want a Sony a1 + 200 600 and 35-150 on two bodies. If on a cruise boat with no wildlife, I’d probably take an m11 and m10 monochrom with 35 lux and 50 nokton.I’d consider an x2d setup as well though.
Paul20
Hello,I've done a fair bit of travelling with an M9, 28mm Cron and 50mm Lux. Never really felt I needed more.Perhaps I would take an M10 today... if I was lucky enough. But for me those focal lengths are ideal and the weight is manageable.Best,Paul
Rexgig0
I known EXACTLY what it it is like to fumble and drop an M10 camera, at the onset of a trip, so, I would start this trip with two M cameras. (The camera was wrapped, in a neoprene camera wrap, which prevented cosmetic damage, but, there was considerable internal damage, which required repair at the Leica service center in NJ.) I had two cameras with me, but they were of two different brands, so, my undamaged Leica Summilux-M 50mm ASPH was dead weight, on that trip, being unusable on my Nikon DSLR. (Thankfully, it was a short road trip.)So, my around-the-world trip would mean two M cameras, and two or more M lenses:+ Leica M10. I love shooting B&W, but some scenes are, really, color-oriented.+ Leica M Type 246 Monochrom. Better in low light than an M10. Yes, better.+ Leica Summilux-M 50mm ASPH. This is my absolute favorite M lens.+ Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 ZM. 35mm is my most-used focal length, for all occasions.The above would be my minimum kit. I could live without ultra-wide-angle, wide-angle, and long lenses. A mobile phone camera could cover the wide-angle, with its equivalent of a 26mm to 28mm lens. The major omission I see, if using the above-listed kit, would be a compact lens, for times when I want to sling the camera under a vest or jacket, or keep the camera ready-to-shoot inside a small pouch or pocket, and/or any situation which might better-suit a compact lens. A leading candidate would be a pre-ASPH Summilux-M 35mm, or a Voigtlander equivalent. Compactness is best when there is no hood in place, so, rather than risk damaging an expensive Summilux:+ Voigtlander Nokton 35mm VM, f/1.4 II, MC or SC, or, the newer f/1.5.I do not yet own a pre-ASPH Summilux-M 35mm, or the Voigtlander Nokton equivalents, but, an around-the-world trip takes some amount of preparation, allowing time to acquire the lens. I have some slower-max-aperture compact lenses, which would just have to do, if a fast, compact 35mm could not be found, in time.Then, if there is room, in the carry-on bag, and the itinerary does not include any death marches, I would want to bring an ultra-wide and wide:+ Voigtlander Nokton 21mm f/1.4 VM.+ Leica Elmar-M 24mm ASPH.I see an “around-the-world” trip as primarily a social event, during which I would be photographing fellow travelers, and the people met along the way, plus, some landscape-like images, but not Serious Landscapes, which require much time, and are best done with large, sturdy tripods. I foresee portraits as being environmental, with background context, so, I would not need to have a 75mm, 85mm, 90mm, or 135mm lens.Much as I like macro shooting, and pursuing images of birds and wildlife, those require more equipment than I would really want to tote, on an around-the-world trip. I can carry two M cameras, and four or five lenses, in pouches worn on a sturdy belt, or inside one sling bag, or inside one small back-pack.I could describe a Canon DSLR kit, or a Nikon SLR kit. I could describe a macro-oriented DSLR travel kit, or an DSLR kit oriented around a tele-zoom lens, allowing some images of distant birds, wildlife, and architectural details. This being Leica Talk, and having done enough typing, I will not go there.
mc-101
deednets wrote:mc-101 wrote:Dear Leica photo forum members,As the we near the end (of DPReview) ....If you were going on a once-in-a-lifetime around the world trip, what camera and lenses would you take? Would you take a one-lens setup, a two-lens setup, or something else entirely?I would like to hear your opinions and recommendations, perhaps based on your own experiences and shooting styles.Do you prefer the simplicity and versatility of a one-lens setup, such as the Leica 35mm f/2 Summicron-M, or do you prefer the flexibility of a two-lens setup, such as pairing a 28mm and 50mm lens together?Or, do you think that a Leica camera may not be the best option for this type of trip and would recommend another camera system entirely? If so, what would you recommend?I look forward to hearing your thoughts and recommendations.Like Joshua mentioned, the Q2 comes to mind. I am currently in northern Vietnam, a little motorbike tour. Have a Sony A7IV with a 20/1.8 and a Batis 40/2 CF, but honestly, I could have left the Sony at home. I mean, not really, but close enough.The Q2 is a brilliant choice imho when the weather and light are less than ideal.On a world tour, I personally would possibly take the Q2, a Fuji X-T30 plus the 14/2.8 and the 50/2. And then would ponder the 35/1.4.But no SL, have met people with that monstrosity now and again, just heavy looking and possibly is.DeedThank-you Deed. Enjoy your trip, which sounds fantastic. Your experience on camera use is very helpful. Getting a lot of good advice in this thread. Thank you all...
mc-101
Rexgig0 wrote:I known EXACTLY what it it is like to fumble and drop an M10 camera, at the onset of a trip, so, I would start this trip with two M cameras. (The camera was wrapped, in a neoprene camera wrap, which prevented cosmetic damage, but, there was considerable internal damage, which required repair at the Leica service center in NJ.) I had two cameras with me, but they were of two different brands, so, my undamaged Leica Summilux-M 50mm ASPH was dead weight, on that trip, being unusable on my Nikon DSLR. (Thankfully, it was a short road trip.)So, my around-the-world trip would mean two M cameras, and two or more M lenses:+ Leica M10. I love shooting B&W, but some scenes are, really, color-oriented.+ Leica M Type 246 Monochrom. Better in low light than an M10. Yes, better.+ Leica Summilux-M 50mm ASPH. This is my absolute favorite M lens.+ Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 ZM. 35mm is my most-used focal length, for all occasions.The above would be my minimum kit. I could live without ultra-wide-angle, wide-angle, and long lenses. A mobile phone camera could cover the wide-angle, with its equivalent of a 26mm to 28mm lens. The major omission I see, if using the above-listed kit, would be a compact lens, for times when I want to sling the camera under a vest or jacket, or keep the camera ready-to-shoot inside a small pouch or pocket, and/or any situation which might better-suit a compact lens. A leading candidate would be a pre-ASPH Summilux-M 35mm, or a Voigtlander equivalent. Compactness is best when there is no hood in place, so, rather than risk damaging an expensive Summilux:+ Voigtlander Nokton 35mm VM, f/1.4 II, MC or SC, or, the newer f/1.5.I do not yet own a pre-ASPH Summilux-M 35mm, or the Voigtlander Nokton equivalents, but, an around-the-world trip takes some amount of preparation, allowing time to acquire the lens. I have some slower-max-aperture compact lenses, which would just have to do, if a fast, compact 35mm could not be found, in time.Then, if there is room, in the carry-on bag, and the itinerary does not include any death marches, I would want to bring an ultra-wide and wide:+ Voigtlander Nokton 21mm f/1.4 VM.+ Leica Elmar-M 24mm ASPH.I see an “around-the-world” trip as primarily a social event, during which I would be photographing fellow travelers, and the people met along the way, plus, some landscape-like images, but not Serious Landscapes, which require much time, and are best done with large, sturdy tripods. I foresee portraits as being environmental, with background context, so, I would not need to have a 75mm, 85mm, 90mm, or 135mm lens.Much as I like macro shooting, and pursuing images of birds and wildlife, those require more equipment than I would really want to tote, on an around-the-world trip. I can carry two M cameras, and four or five lenses, in pouches worn on a sturdy belt, or inside one sling bag, or inside one small back-pack.I could describe a Canon DSLR kit, or a Nikon SLR kit. I could describe a macro-oriented DSLR travel kit, or an DSLR kit oriented around a tele-zoom lens, allowing some images of distant birds, wildlife, and architectural details. This being Leica Talk, and having done enough typing, I will not go there.Excellent advice all round. I hope your camera is back to good health now. Even though M's are build like tanks, your experience underscores the importance of being careful... Thanks again... -- martin
mc-101
Godfrey wrote:Waiting on rumors is a proven way to disappointment and lost opportunities.I'm not saying the Q3 might not happen, but if I'm going to go on a trip within six months, I want the camera I'm going to useNOWso that I can test it, use it, and be 100% comfortable with it long before I pack my bags and go.Beyond that, I don't see what the Q3 or Q2 offers me beyond what one has with an M10-R or M body and a Summicron-M 28mm f/2 ASPH lens. I don't want or need AF, certainly don't need a tilt screen, or any of the other convenience features. Simpler is better. And ... with the M, I could choose another lens if I preferred, even with a one-lens travel kit. Why pay that much for a camera limited to just one lens?This is why I've not bought any Q even though I think the Q2/Q2 Monochrom is a lovely camera...GI tend to agree with this... I think the Q is popular because of its excellent photographic capabilities plus its convenience... Best to all for the future -- Martin
mc-101
JohnLass wrote:My heart would say my Leica M10 and Leica Elmarit-M 28mm f/2.8 ASPH, but my head would say my A7RV...Hi John, sigh.... yes, I see immediately that thought process. And it is important... Thanks Martin
Rexgig0
mc-101 wrote:Excellent advice all round. I hope your camera is back to good health now. Even though M's are build like tanks, your experience underscores the importance of being careful... Thanks again... -- martinThanks for your kind words. Yes, my M10 was/is healed.To add a bit, to the discussion, even though I may carry multiple lenses, per unit of camera, I do not like swapping lenses, much, while shooting, often preferring to reach for the second camera, if I have it with me. Even though I consider 21mm and 24mm lenses to be rather specialized, mostly for pre-planned shots, I am able to enjoy a 21mm or 24mm as a walking-about lens, if that is what happens to be on the camera, when I am only carrying one camera.