Pretty much the perfect travel camera

gohunter

I normally shoot Fujis with an X-T4 and X-T2, but I was looking to travel light. I bought a GX80 second hand and I honestly can't say that it has ever disappointed me. Since buying the camera and using it on my first holiday with the 12-32mm kit lens (which is pretty amazing), I have also bought the Olympus 45mm f1.8 portrait lens and the Olympus 40-150mm f4.5-5.6 telephoto zoom. This kit is just SO SMALL AND LIGHT! I have absolutely no reservations about taking it everywhere with me in a VERY small camera bag.Image quality is excellent for travel shots. I'm never looking for the absolute ultimate in quality for holiday snapshots, but it is leagues ahead of my smartphone, even though I have a very good phone. The IQ and computational photography that this camera can produce is excellent. The after shooting focus point pulling is pretty amazing, as is the pre and post photo recording so that you can get the best shot.In conclusion, I am very happy to have this as my "holiday camera" and for the foreseeable future I can't really see me taking my Fuji X-T4 and lenses on holiday with me. They will be saved for pro shoots and things closer to home. Off on hols again soon and the GX80 will be with me.


ahaslett

If my GM1 ever dies, that will replace it.  It’s good to have confirmation from your experience.Based on your enjoyment of the lenses you mention, maybe you would be interested in:Laowa 10/2 - extend into WA and sun stars with great rendering but a couple of minor flaws.  Probably not available used.  MF only, but that’s OK for WA.PL 25/1.4 mk i - great rendering in a classic focal length, light and cheap usedSamyang 7.5mm fisheye - for fun and very crowded locations where you can’t step back.  Only buy used where you can easily return if the copy has been dropped etc.  Hugin is great for defishing with a choice of projections to suit your composition.Andrew


alcelc

You know that 40-150 on GX85 (any Panny camera) will mean IBIS only?This lenses is good for Oly cameras which have more effective IBIS.Except G9 or GHs, IBIS of Panny is not very effective. On my home testing it is around 2 stops max on GX85.If you will consider again, I would suggest you to look at 45~150 f/4-5.6 or 45-175PZ f/4-5.6. These 2 lenses are DUAL IS on GX85 and can expect very solid 5 stops of effective stabilization. Also they are DFD compatible for faster AF (might help video AF). On IQ, both of these 2 lenses are not weaker than 40-150.Although GX85 is an older model, it is still a very capable camera. I love mine too.


gohunter

alcelc wrote:You know that 40-150 on GX85 (any Panny camera) will mean IBIS only?This lenses is good for Oly cameras which have more effective IBIS.Except G9 or GHs, IBIS of Panny is not very effective. On my home testing it is around 2 stops max on GX85.If you will consider again, I would suggest you to look at 45~150 f/4-5.6 or 45-175PZ f/4-5.6. These 2 lenses are DUAL IS on GX85 and can expect very solid 5 stops of effective stabilization. Also they are DFD compatible for faster AF (might help video AF). On IQ, both of these 2 lenses are not weaker than 40-150.Although GX85 is an older model, it is still a very capable camera. I love mine too.Thanks for the thoughts, but I am not particularly bothered whether it has IS on the lens or not and I very rarely shoot video. I started in photography before the days of IBIS, digital or even autofocus, using manual cameras like the Olympus OM1, etc. In fact, I remember when autofocus came out, I thought of it as an unnecessary gimmick. As I said in my post, I use a Fuji X-T4 camera for any serious work and the GX80 is just used for a lightweight kit for holidays.


baxters

Your O45mm f1.8, P12-32zoom  and O40-150f4.5 zoom are all good lenses, well suited by price. size, and image quality to carry in a bag, or even pockets while traveling. They sure complement any M43 body, . I bought the GX85 when I really wanted the GM5, but maybe the IBIS swayed me. Good camera. Has the onboard flash in case you forgot to bring omne. Has the IBIS to help you take a long night exposure with camera braced against something solid. Has the viewfinder when you see the screen. Takes a good video too. . I  still haven't learned the menu after 4 years, like I have with my Olympus bodies, and I have to trial and error the controls the first time I pick it up.


Felice62

Yes the GX80 is a rather nice and features packed little RF style cam. I really enjoy it zith the12-32 and 35-100 collapsable travel lenses,A super mini package


bmoag

I'm tending to use my GX9 more than my full frame EVF because of the image quality to heft ratio, particularly with long tele lenses.Sadly the EVFs in these small cameras are on the poor side of execrable, useful only for pointing and focusing but bearing no resemblance to the raw image opened in Photoshop.I have to constantly remind myself that what I get will be way better than what I see when looking through the EVF. The panel on the back of the camera is only modestly better.


Isola Verde

ahaslett wrote:If my GM1 ever dies, that will replace it. It’s good to have confirmation from your experience.John Lewis now say they've just 4 available for online sale, so we may be reaching the last opportunity to buy a new one.... some 7 years after launch if memory serves me correctly.Black body & lens, £449.Peter


Promeneur

Felice62 wrote:Yes the GX80 is a rather nice and features packed little RF style cam. I really enjoy it zith the12-32 and 35-100 collapsable travel lenses,A super mini packageCouldn't agree more!  I specifically purchased the 35-100mm for trips where I travel by plane and/or train!  I would add the P25mm or PL15mm for what is still a very small kit!I really like rangefinders for travel, but also use my PL 8 - 18mm so much that it stays on a second body nearly all of the time.  Still, it all fits in one shoulder bag for me.The EVF on the GX80/85 is perfectly fine for my visual accuity, but I understand for others the milage may vary.The GX80/85 is going on my next two trips and I have choices.


ahaslett

Isola Verde wrote:ahaslett wrote:If my GM1 ever dies, that will replace it. It’s good to have confirmation from your experience.John Lewis now say they've just 4 available for online sale, so we may be reaching the last opportunity to buy a new one.... some 7 years after launch if memory serves me correctly.Black body & lens, £449.PeterThanks Peter.When you can't get them used any more, then I'll need a different plan.Andrew


Felice62

EditedIt would have been hardly possible to put an oled 3.6Mp panel in that tiny space. I get along with that. The gx80 or gx9 back LCD is fully usable and snappy. It features more expensive cameras' features that are very likeable, IMO.


Felice62

The perfect street camera is the gx80 fitted with the Panny 20/1.7Ps the pl15 is being delivered to me this Thursday


2ndact scene1

tFelice62 wrote:EditedIt would have been hardly possible to put an oled 3.6Mp panel in that tiny space. I get along with that. The gx80 or gx9 back LCD is fully usable and snappy. It features more expensive cameras' features that are very likeable, IMO.The G100 is even smaller and has a 3.5MP (approx) panel. It is a very noticeable upgrade from the Gx9.


Felice62

I much preferred the Fujifilm x-t200 to the g100 that's really a videocentric cam.Of course the 20mp and Highrez evf are an upgrade to the gx80 but in that very category the Fujifilm makes a lot more sense to me.


Felice62

Sure but it has its flaws. And we are praising the gx80 which is a different creature itself.The desirable features of the gx9 are its better jpeg engine with more pleasant colours. The increase in resolution is something I can live without.I have had two gx9s and they both had IBIS problems whereas my gx80 never showed such a flaw.


Promeneur

Felice62 wrote:The perfect street camera is the gx80 fitted with the Panny 20/1.7I've done some street with the P25mm 1.7 and been happy with that.  But I have a GRIIIx and really, really like that for street.  Nobody notices you and if they do they don't take the camera or me seriously.Ps the pl15 is being delivered to me this ThursdayYou're going to really enjoy the PL15mm!  Congrats!Cheers!


Felice62

Yes the GR line seems to be cut for street utilisation. That said the x70 or even xf10 from Fujifilm are equally impressive.Did I mention I really like Fujifilm cameras?(⁠◠⁠‿⁠◕⁠)


gohunter

Felice62 wrote:Yes the GR line seems to be cut for street utilisation. That said the x70 or even xf10 from Fujifilm are equally impressive.Did I mention I really like Fujifilm cameras?(⁠◠⁠‿⁠◕⁠)Yes, I used to have the XF10 a few years ago. It was fine for street, but as a travel camera I wanted something more flexible. I often found with the XF10 that the angle of view was too wide.I too really like Fujifilm cameras. I used to use a pair of S5 Pros for weddings. In the days when most sensors had a limited dynamic range, I was able with to capture the details in the bride's white dress as well as the groom's dark suit. Of course, as soon as the X-T1 came out, I bought one, and then another. These days, I use an X-T4, with an X-T2 as my second body. Thinking about getting the X-T5, but hesitating a bit at the moment.


timo

bmoag wrote:I'm tending to use my GX9 more than my full frame EVF because of the image quality to heft ratio, particularly with long tele lenses.Sadly the EVFs in these small cameras are on the poor side of execrable, useful only for pointing and focusing but bearing no resemblance to the raw image opened in Photoshop.I have to constantly remind myself that what I get will be way better than what I see when looking through the EVF. The panel on the back of the camera is only modestly better.The superb EVF is one reason the demise of the GX8 is so regrettable. In years to come that will be regarded as a classic on the secondhand market.


SystemAgnostic

I agree.  My travel kit is the GX85, 12-32, 20mm, and Sigma 56mm 1.4.I love the Sigma, but it is pretty heavy.  I'm thinking I'll get a 45 or 42.5mm for when walking, and keep the 56mm when I'm close to the car or home.


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