How does the Sony A7rII compare vs the Canon 1Dx? I have a chance to get the Sony for about $2900 or the Canon for $4000. Any advice apprciated!

dmosk4 wrote:How does the Sony A7rII compare vs the Canon 1Dx? I have a chance to get the Sony for about $2900 or the Canon for $4000. Any advice apprciated!If you need 11 frames per second and or want to shot in rubbish light when you need to get a photo regardless of whether it's any good or not get the 1dx, if not get the Sony as the Sony destroys it for absolute image quality such as resolution, dynamic range, lack of banding, ultra clean shadows etc.Someone will argue this is not the case but I have both and that's my conclusion.

Do you photograph moving subjects? If so, the 1DX is far superior. I shoot with both. For static subjects the Sony is marginally sharper. I only use my A7RII when carrying a smaller, lighter camera is important to me. Overall, I get far more in focus images with the 1DX. It rarely mis-focuses.

I'm looking at it for Dog Shows and Baseball games. At dog shows it's a moving object...Is $4000 a good price for the 1dx from an authorized dealer?

dmosk4 wrote:How does the Sony A7rII compare vs the Canon 1Dx? I have a chance to get the Sony for about $2900 or the Canon for $4000. Any advice apprciated!The A7r2 will give more in focus shots if you use native glass and features like Eye Detect.  It is crazy good for kids.If you need high fps and shoot fast action, where Eye Detect does not work, the Canon is a lot better.  Remember, the Sony AF only keeps up at a miserly 2 fps and its buffer is itty-bitty.For landscapes, really low light or anywhere resolution and DR are critical the Sony is the choice.If you have a strong preference for EVF or OVF that may decide it for you.Also, the Sony shoots 4K video if you care about that.Both are great.-Bill

What is better for dog shows, sports events, and modeling shoots? Guessing the Canon?

Interesting that quite a few people own both. I do as well. Complimentary products which is why I chose the A7RII to go with my 1DX. 1DX is great in low light. Great for action and high ISO as well. IMO very low noise. Very fast for birds, sports, and wild life. The A7RII very high resolution, with a good AF system with native lenses and accurate focus that may take just a little longer but most things I shoot with it don't move that fast.

Canon Guy 1 wrote:Do you photograph moving subjects? If so, the 1DX is far superior. I shoot with both. For static subjects the Sony is marginally sharper. I only use my A7RII when carrying a smaller, lighter camera is important to me. Overall, I get far more in focus images with the 1DX. It rarely mis-focuses.I have tried the a7rII for moving subjects, mainly people though where eye detect is like witch craft it never missed. The a7rII isn't a field sport camera but it will work as a Motorsport camera without problem.as for accuracy the a7rII in single shot is far more accurate and I get 100% keeper rate especially if using fast aperture lenses like my 35 f1.4. I do only use native Sony glass on the Sony though, your mileage may vary if you use canon or Nikon glass.resolution and micro detail wise the Sony is far superior to the low res 1dx and the Sony kills the canon for landscapes in fact the Sony compares to high end medium format backs for landscapes upto Near a0 print sizes.

The A7R II will make you fall in love with its sensor.The 1D X will make you fall in love with its speed and sheer can-do attitude.

dmosk4 wrote:How does the Sony A7rII compare vs the Canon 1Dx? I have a chance to get the Sony for about $2900 or the Canon for $4000. Any advice apprciated!You might want to consider the Canon 5DS----could be the best of both worlds: superb image quality, lots of cropping power and outstanding AF system. If you do a lot of action indoor events, you may downsize the files to come close to 1DX high-iso IQ. The only limitation would be 5 fps.Haven't done dog shoots but I shot sports with the 5DS and model portraits.Good luck in whatever camera you choose.

What is better for dog shows, sports events, and modeling shoots? Guessing the Canon?The canon is better for fast moving sports. No contest there.-Bill

dmosk4 wrote:What is better for dog shows, sports events, and modeling shoots? Guessing the Canon?You have a very interesting combo of events you are looking for.I will give my answer but before I do I will give the cameras I use (5D3, 5DSR, 7D2, A7Rii) and I shoot Weddings, Ice Hockey, Portraits.The reason I think you may be somewhat unique is that I can't see dog shows being extremely high shutter speed and high speed tracking events - unless you are talking about obstacle course stuff and then for sure. Also, when you say Sports, are you talking about the sidelines of 12yr old kids playing soccer, indoor volleyball, indoor swimming? - exactly what? - and how fast and how far away are your? what kind of lenses do you own or are you willing to buy?The A7Rii is NOT, i repeat NOT, built for or remotely good at high speed tracking - it in fact sucks at it. But, if the dog is far away and you are using a 200F2 or 70-200 F2.8 on a Metabones to 'stills' then it will work.You mention modelling. This is interesting because you don't see a lot of Portrait shooters with a 1Dx - they are more the 5D3 users because you get increase megapixels and you don't need the FPS of the 1Dx.It doesn't surprise me that many of the answers so far have come from people that own both - because there is almost no scenario where I would be indifferent between choosing either a 1Dx or a A7rii - there are completely and totally different animals.A 1Dx is like a military grade weapon carried by people who make their living shooting sports or in scrums - is that you? Do you want to show up to a Dog event with a 400F2.8 mounted on a 1Dx? Maybe an A7Rii with a Metabones IV T adapter with a 135L shooting in Silent mode is more what you are looking for.Someone suggested a 5DS - that is another great suggestion. Cheaper that a 5DSR much better at tracking than a A7Rii and would be great at Portraits.Another suggestion, my suggestion, is that a very lightly used 5D3, given what you are looking for, can be had for approximately $1500 and is a great combo camera.Maybe you can give some details about what you currently shoot and what lenses you own.

dmosk4 wrote:How does the Sony A7rII compare vs the Canon 1Dx? I have a chance to get the Sony for about $2900 or the Canon for $4000. Any advice apprciated!if you wanted to knock nails in with it go for the Canon .....as for photographic tools they are completely different  for different use....if you need to compare a A7rii with a canon then it will be a 50MP 5D .....sort of

Cameras are extremes of the camera world. 1DX for sports (especially at night) and the 7rii for slower situations.1DX is weather related.I carry both. -- http://www.14fps.tv- My YouTube channel with a focus on Sony cameras.

I would never trust my A7RII at any paying job that involved moving subjects, fast or slow.  The 1DX is the only instrument I have ever used that is consistently reliable in this area. The A7RII excels in many areas, but not this one.

Horses for courses, as you would expect.Canon users who are interested in final image quality have a larger problem: inadequate system lenses. They are well-provided for in specialist pro needs - long teles, f2.8 zooms, TS, f1.2 old character lenses perhaps you might argue, despite their age and flaws.But leading edge enthusiast lenses, it's just not there, is it?Sony and Zeiss have an already impressive catalog of near tobest in classprimes. Better still they don't require f4 to resolve corners. And you can fit, say Leica's 50AA, 75AA and 90AA in a jiffy.I doubt Canon has even one prime lens that is best in class from 15mm to 135mm these days.And that's what happens when you update your primes every 20-25 years, and attend almost exclusively to pro needs - which they do do very well, as it is their remaining bread and butter - heavy lenses on a heavy camera system in a light, high image quality camera world.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF_lens_mountSo they feed the pro horse, Sony and Zeiss feed the enthusiast horse.Hence Batis, Loxia, FE plus everything else. Canon users can only dream of such IQ.

Save yourself a lot of money and pick up an A 77II for $900, faster and more accurate than the 1dx for many things.  Many comparable lenses will be cheaper with the Canon but many A mount lenses can be used easily with the A7rII.

philip pj wrote:Horses for courses, as you would expect.Canon users who are interested in final image quality have a larger problem: inadequate system lenses. They are well-provided for in specialist pro needs - long teles, f2.8 zooms, TS, f1.2 old character lenses perhaps you might argue, despite their age and flaws.But leading edge enthusiast lenses, it's just not there, is it?Sony and Zeiss have an already impressive catalog of near tobest in classprimes. Better still they don't require f4 to resolve corners. And you can fit, say Leica's 50AA, 75AA and 90AA in a jiffy.I doubt Canon has even one prime lens that is best in class from 15mm to 135mm these days.And that's what happens when you update your primes every 20-25 years, and attend almost exclusively to pro needs - which they do do very well, as it is their remaining bread and butter - heavy lenses on a heavy camera system in a light, high image quality camera world.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF_lens_mountSo they feed the pro horse, Sony and Zeiss feed the enthusiast horse.Hence Batis, Loxia, FE plus everything else. Canon users can only dream of such IQ.I had not really thought of it that way.I don't know the Canon system well as I did not want the sensor banding so I went with Nikon instead but it sounds reasonable.In any case, I am am no longer with Nikon because I want so many of the things I am getting from the A Series cameras.I do wish I felt better about the Sony 24-70/4 FE lens though. Just charge more and give me the option for a top shelf bread and butter zoom. You know, for those days when I am slumming.-Bill

Canon Guy 1 wrote:I would never trust my A7RII at any paying job that involved moving subjects, fast or slow. The 1DX is the only instrument I have ever used that is consistently reliable in this area. The A7RII excels in many areas, but not this one.I have to agree. The 1dx is fantastic for moving subjects, tricky lighting etc. It is built like a tank. My new A7Rii is built way better than I thought it would for my Canons. However, there is an obvious difference. remember, the 1DX was $7000 when it was released, so it's a different level camera built for specific duties.With that said, the A7Rii, like a 5dii, ii, sr, would be an excellent second camera for such events. Where you are taking wider, more normal shots vs high speed. If you main focus is dog shows and baseball, I think 1dx would be way to go.

If you shoot dog shows and baseball games, the 1DX is the only way to go. The Sonys AF is much too slow for this. You can't compare the two systems AF at all. The Canon nails the shot at 100% even in bad light. It has the best AF I ever used. 4000 USD is okay.