Hi I'm building a system around A7 and am new to external flash. I understand that sony had a proprietary hot-shoe at their nex 3,5,7 and then made it a standard hot-shoe on newer models like the A7. Does this mean I can use Yongnuo YN 560 III without any converters?

Avi Rib wrote:Hi I'm building a system around A7 and am new to external flash. I understand that sony had a proprietary hot-shoe at their nex 3,5,7 and then made it a standard hot-shoe on newer models like the A7. Does this mean I can use Yongnuo YN 560 III without any converters?yes you can.

Cool thanksHow do you like the flash? Is there anything else I might need to consider in this price range?

Just keep in mind that this is a manual flash. The camera won't be able to tell the flash how strong its burst needs to be for proper exposure. And the camera won't compensate for the presence of the flash when in auto, a, or s mode. So this is a flash you use in full manual mode, setting the strength on the flash and controlling every aspect of the exposure on the camera.But even if you haven't done that before, it's not too scary. Just take a few test shots when you first enter your environment and ajust as needed.If you don't need the remote receiver built into the III, you can save a few bucks with the II, which is otherwise basically the same. Either is a great, flexible flash for manual mode and/or off-camera shooting.If you feel more comfortable with the camera controlling the flash, look at picking up a used HVL-36AM - or the equivilant from before Sony bought Minolta's camera division, the 3600HS(D). You would need a cheap Sony adapter to use the old Sony/Minolta flash with the new shoe, and it can't swivel (bounce, yes, but swivel, no) but everything will work automatically. It also supports HSS, which can be handy. I have both this and a 560-II and use each in different situations. Between the two, I spent less than I would have on any current Sony flash.

Thanks for the clarification, I think I'll go with YN 560 III for maybe adding another unit down the road.I also want a smaller flash when going outside for fill flash, so instead of getting the original Sony HVLF20M MI I thought about Polaroid PL-108AF that seems relatively small and costs 1/3 of the sony... Any thoughts on these two as well?

Avi Rib wrote:Thanks for the clarification, I think I'll go with YN 560 III for maybe adding another unit down the road.I also want a smaller flash when going outside for fill flash, so instead of getting the original Sony HVLF20M MI I thought about Polaroid PL-108AF that seems relatively small and costs 1/3 of the sony... Any thoughts on these two as well?I just got the YN 560III and wireless trigger, and YN ring flash. Work great in manual.However for fill flash I decided I wanted TTL, so ordered and waited for the HVLF20M. I think for fill TTL is really handy, and the 20M isn't that expensive, and is very easy to carry and compact.

Good point...

Which remote trigger did you use?CraigArnold wrote:Avi Rib wrote:Thanks for the clarification, I think I'll go with YN 560 III for maybe adding another unit down the road.I also want a smaller flash when going outside for fill flash, so instead of getting the original Sony HVLF20M MI I thought about Polaroid PL-108AF that seems relatively small and costs 1/3 of the sony... Any thoughts on these two as well?I just got the YN 560III and wireless trigger, and YN ring flash. Work great in manual.However for fill flash I decided I wanted TTL, so ordered and waited for the HVLF20M. I think for fill TTL is really handy, and the 20M isn't that expensive, and is very easy to carry and compact.

elmo1888 wrote:Which remote trigger did you use?try thishttp://flashhavoc.com/yongnuo-rf-603-ii-released/

I am using the RF602, came in this set...http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Yongnuo-RF602-C3-Camera-Trigger/dp/B0089KBT8A/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1392799352&sr=8-24&keywords=yn+rf602

exdeejjjaaaa wrote:elmo1888 wrote:Which remote trigger did you use?try thishttp://flashhavoc.com/yongnuo-rf-603-ii-released/Wow, that article linked to this:http://flashhavoc.com/yn-560-iii-remote-power-control-with-new-transmitter-coming/Transmitter with remote power control.. This would be seriously awesome!

Avi Rib wrote:Thanks for the clarification, I think I'll go with YN 560 III for maybe adding another unit down the road.I also want a smaller flash when going outside for fill flash, so instead of getting the original Sony HVLF20M MI I thought about Polaroid PL-108AF that seems relatively small and costs 1/3 of the sony... Any thoughts on these two as well?I just got the YN 560III and wireless trigger, and YN ring flash. Work great in manual.However for fill flash I decided I wanted TTL, so ordered and waited for the HVLF20M. I think for fill TTL is really handy, and the 20M isn't that expensive, and is very easy to carry and compact.So did you buy the canon or nikon version to have stands rd d hotshoe or the sony one with an adapter? I am comfused in which one to buy with sony s change of hotshoe

I have just started using the YN 560 III on my A7. I'm new to manual flashes so have been doing a lot of messing around. Taking the camera out of auto ISO seems to be a must. In fact I don't really understand how using auto ISO in M mode would be of any value? But anyway- to my question- is there are particular ISO that's best for this camera to manage noise while still offering acceptable shutter speeds for indoor scenes (thinking wedding reception, or low ambient light- no overhead)? I was used to 400 speed film back in the day but I don't know where this sensor equates with quality. -- [+] Andy R. "my mom says I take good pictures" Sony A7 kit, some legacy Minolta Maxuum and manual glass

andrman wrote:I have just started using the YN 560 III on my A7. I'm new to manual flashes so have been doing a lot of messing around. Taking the camera out of auto ISO seems to be a must. In fact I don't really understand how using auto ISO in M mode would be of any value? But anyway- to my question- is there are particular ISO that's best for this camera to manage noise while still offering acceptable shutter speeds for indoor scenes (thinking wedding reception, or low ambient light- no overhead)? I was used to 400 speed film back in the day but I don't know where this sensor equates with quality. -- [+] Andy R. "my mom says I take good pictures" Sony A7 kit, some legacy Minolta Maxuum and manual glassI eventually got this flash and and recently got a simple diffuser, I just finished shooting an event for my friends with around 100 people using , it was in a closed space with "adequate" lighting, I shot most of the event in 640 to 800 ISO with shutter speed of 160-200 and flash was on 1/32 power. What I noticed in post that in many cases I underexposed but some adjustments of the raw files did the job. I would have been better with 1000 ISO or so, this ISO for modern FF cameras isn't a big deal so the end result looks real good. I think that professional wedding photographers have additional flashes triggered remotely to control the light which allows them to shoot with lower ISO ... but if you're going to use only one flash you should stick with the higher values and shoot in RAW so that u can easily correct your self, and of course look at the results to adjust your exposure, it shouldn't vary that significantly, and stick with high aperture values to keep people in focus, I have the FE 55 1.8, and easily got ppl out of focus with 5.6 apertures...

Can the A7R fire theYongnuo YN 560 III off camera without any remote controller ?

lembadion wrote: Can the A7R fire theYongnuo YN 560 III off camera without any remote controller ?Yeah, I don't thinkanycamera is able to do that.

lembadion wrote:Can the A7R fire theYongnuo YN 560 III off camera without any remote controller ?It's not that simple.  You need something in the A7r's hot shoe to trigger the remote YN 560 III by either RF or optical.1.  Use a YN RF-603 II transceiver in A7r's hot shoe set to "TX" mode.  Set the 560 III to its built in radio receiver mode.  The flash is also backward compatible with the older YN RF-602 triggers.2. Use a flash in the A7r's hot shoe to optically trigger the remote YN 560 III.  Select either "S1" or "S2" mode on the 560 III to use its built in optical trigger.If you have other RF triggers you will need to put a receiver on flash in addition to a transmitter in the camera's hot shoe.

The A7R menu "remote flash" does not work ? (different frecuencies?)I ask because my A7R and  560III not arrive yet

schoengohan wrote:Avi Rib wrote:Thanks for the clarification, I think I'll go with YN 560 III for maybe adding another unit down the road.I also want a smaller flash when going outside for fill flash, so instead of getting the original Sony HVLF20M MI I thought about Polaroid PL-108AF that seems relatively small and costs 1/3 of the sony... Any thoughts on these two as well?I just got the YN 560III and wireless trigger, and YN ring flash. Work great in manual.However for fill flash I decided I wanted TTL, so ordered and waited for the HVLF20M. I think for fill TTL is really handy, and the 20M isn't that expensive, and is very easy to carry and compact.So did you buy the canon or nikon version to have stands rd d hotshoe or the sony one with an adapter? I am comfused in which one to buy with sony s change of hotshoeDoes this mean the the Yongnuo YN 560 III that is Canon/Nikon version can use as it is (I know it will be manual) or any adapters are required?If I am getting Yongnuo YN 560 III Sony version, does it requires any adapters?-Nivedita

lembadion wrote:The A7R menu "remote flash" does not work ? (different frecuencies?)I ask because my A7R and 560III not arrive yetI believe any A7r menu item for remote flash refers to Sony's proprietary optical based wireless flash and requires a compatible Sony flash mounted on camera. That's totally different technology and incompatible with the YN 560 III.The Sony A7/A7r does not have a built in radio transmitter for remote flash triggering. Your choices to trigger the YN 560 III were givenhere.