Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:RLight wrote:I understand. In sure I will come away with some one eye in focus and one eye outside the DOF.No, f/2 is fine for one person, just not 2 or more.My maximum is 2 with 40mm & f/1.4. With a little bit of practice you can always get 2 points in the plain of focus by moving yourself. With 3 points you're out of control.Just so I understand. Your moving to adjust the angle such that 2 points seperated (say a point on one person's eye and another person's eye) stay in focus?Yes.  The eye of person A is tracked by the AF, and the eye of person B is kept in focus by adjusting the angle. It's not easy, but it isn't completely undoable either.With 2 persons you can capture eye contact expressions. Worth it!That's a nifty idea.

Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:RLight wrote:I understand. In sure I will come away with some one eye in focus and one eye outside the DOF.No, f/2 is fine for one person, just not 2 or more.My maximum is 2 with 40mm & f/1.4. With a little bit of practice you can always get 2 points in the plain of focus by moving yourself. With 3 points you're out of control.Just so I understand. Your moving to adjust the angle such that 2 points seperated (say a point on one person's eye and another person's eye) stay in focus?Although not the best example may be this helps. By swinging the sensor plane you can adjust the focused plane to accommodate both sets of eyes within the DoF.With 2 persons you can capture eye contact expressions. Worth it!That's a nifty idea.

thunder storm wrote:Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:RLight wrote:I understand. In sure I will come away with some one eye in focus and one eye outside the DOF.No, f/2 is fine for one person, just not 2 or more.My maximum is 2 with 40mm & f/1.4. With a little bit of practice you can always get 2 points in the plain of focus by moving yourself. With 3 points you're out of control.Just so I understand. Your moving to adjust the angle such that 2 points seperated (say a point on one person's eye and another person's eye) stay in focus?Yes. The eye of person A is tracked by the AF, and the eye of person B is kept in focus by adjusting the angle. It's not easy, but it isn't completely undoable either.Makes sense and something I will practice. I can imagine the benefits so thank you for the idea.If it all goes wrong I know how to contact you 🙈With 2 persons you can capture eye contact expressions. Worth it!That's a nifty idea.

Canon_Guy wrote:Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:RLight wrote:I understand. In sure I will come away with some one eye in focus and one eye outside the DOF.No, f/2 is fine for one person, just not 2 or more.My maximum is 2 with 40mm & f/1.4. With a little bit of practice you can always get 2 points in the plain of focus by moving yourself. With 3 points you're out of control.Just so I understand. Your moving to adjust the angle such that 2 points seperated (say a point on one person's eye and another person's eye) stay in focus?Although not the best example may be this helps. By swinging the sensor plane you can adjust the focused plane to accommodate both sets of eyes within the DoF.With 2 persons you can capture eye contact expressions. Worth it!That's a nifty idea.Great example these children are not to dissimilar age. Nice outfits.

Joe Reynolds wrote:>>>Will FV honor min shutter speed?Absolutely. It’s all I shoot. Used that setup last night in fact.<<

Fastest way to change might be two custom settings.Or just set the shutter to a specific speed in FV mode, depending on lighting and subject movement,  rather than leave on auto.

Joe Reynolds wrote:Fastest way to change might be two custom settings.Or just set the shutter to a specific speed in FV mode, depending on lighting and subject movement, rather than leave on auto.Hi Joe.I think the Fv route and take out of Auto is likely to give me what I need and be flexible.Well, the party is tomorrow so let's hope I don't forget to take the lens cap off 😀I've put the lens hood on.

Ephemeris wrote:Joe Reynolds wrote:Fastest way to change might be two custom settings.Or just set the shutter to a specific speed in FV mode, depending on lighting and subject movement, rather than leave on auto.Hi Joe.I think the Fv route and take out of Auto is likely to give me what I need and be flexible.Well, the party is tomorrow so let's hope I don't forget to take the lens cap off 😀I've put the lens hood on.

Canon_Guy wrote:Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:RLight wrote:I understand. In sure I will come away with some one eye in focus and one eye outside the DOF.No, f/2 is fine for one person, just not 2 or more.My maximum is 2 with 40mm & f/1.4. With a little bit of practice you can always get 2 points in the plain of focus by moving yourself. With 3 points you're out of control.Just so I understand. Your moving to adjust the angle such that 2 points seperated (say a point on one person's eye and another person's eye) stay in focus?Although not the best example may be this helps. By swinging the sensor plane you can adjust the focused plane to accommodate both sets of eyes within the DoF.Great capture, and focus is close enough to perfect for sure!The girl on the left has the right eye in focus, while I would prefer the left eye to be in focus, but that's nit picking.With 2 persons you can capture eye contact expressions. Worth it!That's a nifty idea.

Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:RLight wrote:I understand. In sure I will come away with some one eye in focus and one eye outside the DOF.No, f/2 is fine for one person, just not 2 or more.My maximum is 2 with 40mm & f/1.4. With a little bit of practice you can always get 2 points in the plain of focus by moving yourself. With 3 points you're out of control.Just so I understand. Your moving to adjust the angle such that 2 points seperated (say a point on one person's eye and another person's eye) stay in focus?Yes. The eye of person A is tracked by the AF, and the eye of person B is kept in focus by adjusting the angle. It's not easy, but it isn't completely undoable either.Makes sense and something I will practice. I can imagine the benefits so thank you for the idea.You're welcome!If it all goes wrong I know how to contact you 🙈With 2 persons you can capture eye contact expressions. Worth it!That's a nifty idea.

thunder storm wrote:Ephemeris wrote:Joe Reynolds wrote:Fastest way to change might be two custom settings.Or just set the shutter to a specific speed in FV mode, depending on lighting and subject movement, rather than leave on auto.Hi Joe.I think the Fv route and take out of Auto is likely to give me what I need and be flexible.Well, the party is tomorrow so let's hope I don't forget to take the lens cap off 😀It's okay I've turned long exposure noise reduction on 🙈I've put the lens hood on.

thunder storm wrote:Canon_Guy wrote:Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:RLight wrote:I understand. In sure I will come away with some one eye in focus and one eye outside the DOF.No, f/2 is fine for one person, just not 2 or more.My maximum is 2 with 40mm & f/1.4. With a little bit of practice you can always get 2 points in the plain of focus by moving yourself. With 3 points you're out of control.Just so I understand. Your moving to adjust the angle such that 2 points seperated (say a point on one person's eye and another person's eye) stay in focus?Although not the best example may be this helps. By swinging the sensor plane you can adjust the focused plane to accommodate both sets of eyes within the DoF.Great capture, and focus is close enough to perfect for sure!The girl on the left has the right eye in focus, while I would prefer the left eye to be in focus, but that's nit picking.Me too. But imagine that situation - two 4 years old besties at the children Haloween party... Stopping them from romping around for even a 1 second was a hilarious act. So it was one chance shot. Catch the eye of one of them, adjust the focal plane to so so fit the other and fire. Shutter blades did not even return fully and ladies were gone again.With 2 persons you can capture eye contact expressions. Worth it!That's a nifty idea.

Ephemeris wrote:It's okay I've turned long exposure noise reduction on 🙈that's going to slow your frame rate down. It works by taking a second dark exposure work the shutter closed for the same exposure time and subtracting it from the light one. Normally it's used for >1s exposures.

Sittatunga wrote:Ephemeris wrote:It's okay I've turned long exposure noise reduction on 🙈that's going to slow your frame rate down. It works by taking a second dark exposure work the shutter closed for the same exposure time and subtracting it from the light one. Normally it's used for >1s exposures.If you take a read up this is linked to leaving the lens cap on.It's a joke. 😀

Ephemeris wrote:Joe Reynolds wrote:Fastest way to change might be two custom settings.Or just set the shutter to a specific speed in FV mode, depending on lighting and subject movement, rather than leave on auto.Hi Joe.I think the Fv route and take out of Auto is likely to give me what I need and be flexible.Well, the party is tomorrow so let's hope I don't forget to take the lens cap off 😀I've put the lens hood on.Hope you can post some results.

cpharm86 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:Joe Reynolds wrote:Fastest way to change might be two custom settings.Or just set the shutter to a specific speed in FV mode, depending on lighting and subject movement, rather than leave on auto.Hi Joe.I think the Fv route and take out of Auto is likely to give me what I need and be flexible.Well, the party is tomorrow so let's hope I don't forget to take the lens cap off 😀I've put the lens hood on.Hope you can post some results.I will, as long as the only laughing is within the image.

Canon_Guy wrote:thunder storm wrote:Canon_Guy wrote:Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:RLight wrote:I understand. In sure I will come away with some one eye in focus and one eye outside the DOF.No, f/2 is fine for one person, just not 2 or more.My maximum is 2 with 40mm & f/1.4. With a little bit of practice you can always get 2 points in the plain of focus by moving yourself. With 3 points you're out of control.Just so I understand. Your moving to adjust the angle such that 2 points seperated (say a point on one person's eye and another person's eye) stay in focus?Although not the best example may be this helps. By swinging the sensor plane you can adjust the focused plane to accommodate both sets of eyes within the DoF.Great capture, and focus is close enough to perfect for sure!The girl on the left has the right eye in focus, while I would prefer the left eye to be in focus, but that's nit picking.Me too. But imagine that situation - two 4 years old besties at the children Haloween party... Stopping them from romping around for even a 1 second was a hilarious act. So it was one chance shot. Catch the eye of one of them, adjust the focal plane to so so fit the other and fire. Shutter blades did not even return fully and ladies were gone again.The result is VERY acceptable.My youngest is 7 now, and the AF systems are tortured a little bit less than 3 years ago. The other one is 10 and asks if I can take a picture and starts posing spontaneously. So I'm asking myself if it's a wise thing to invest a whole lot more money in fast AF-ing lenses and bodies, as it might not be a very long term investment....Panta rhei....With 2 persons you can capture eye contact expressions. Worth it!That's a nifty idea.

Ephemeris wrote:Hi FolkLens finally arrived but haven't had chance to use it myself as I've been travelling.Loons quitea big tool.I will be at a 3 year old child's birthday party on Saturday where I will be camera man.I would appreciate any tips on settings to help me grab photos of this child and her friends party.For example tracking settings and any advice on the shallow effects of the F2 aperture.Thanks folks in advanceHope I'm not too late for the party!Move a lot!Show the kids their images on the LCD. They'll love it.Don't wear a neck strap (camera should be up and at the ready 100% of the time).Shoot wide open whenever you can.Stop down when needed (photos will still have nice character).Shoot (silent shutter) bursts.Turn off Exposure Simulation in low light.Use Eye AF with "Focal Point" Initial (not Auto Initial).AF Case 2.Lock focus if needed, then use the "lean" technique to place your focal plane.Avoid using flash if you can (it annoys your subjects).Set up better ambient lighting instead.Shine a big LED lamp up into a corner.Shoot RAW and process with DxO PL6.Enjoy!R2

R2D2 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:Hi FolkLens finally arrived but haven't had chance to use it myself as I've been travelling.Loons quitea big tool.I will be at a 3 year old child's birthday party on Saturday where I will be camera man.I would appreciate any tips on settings to help me grab photos of this child and her friends party.For example tracking settings and any advice on the shallow effects of the F2 aperture.Thanks folks in advanceHope I'm not too late for the party!Nope hasn't started yet. I'm still at the cleaning stage🤣 why do we clean before a kids party? Madness.Move a lot!Got thatShow the kids their images on the LCD. They'll love it.Got thatDon't wear a neck strap (camera should be up and at the ready 100% of the time).Got thatShoot wide open whenever you can.Got thatStop down when needed (photos will still have nice character).UnderstoodShoot (silent shutter) bursts.I'm ECFS shooting?Turn off Exposure Simulation in low light.Okay - I've read many things but for the sake of dragging up old dead wood why do you do this? (If I ask you you can't be wrong 🤣)Use Eye AF with "Focal Point" Initial (not Auto Initial).Got thatAF Case 2Got thatLock focus if needed, then use the "lean" technique to place your focal plane.This sounds a great idea.Avoid using flash if you can (it annoys your subjects).No flash todaySet up better ambient lighting instead.Have some LED work lamps for upligjtibgShine a big LED lamp up into a corner.Got thatShoot RAW and process with DxO PL6.Adobe and Topaz are what we have. Usually shoot RAW + JPEGEnjoy!This is the most demanding request you have made so far 🤣R2Hope the travels were okay and thanks for the hints and tips.Oh - freshly formatted cars.

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