Great shot!That lens has a really nice rendering. Large front elements are great, even when shooting stopped down a bit.

Ephemeris wrote:why do we clean before a kids party? Madness.Absolutely.

Ephemeris wrote:Just recovering from Chicken PoxNice shot, at F/2.8, cute photo. So far no need for f/2.0

thunder storm wrote:Great shot!That lens has a really nice rendering. Large front elements are great, even when shooting stopped down a bit.Thanks Thunder.I've tried to take on the advice for camera setup, my technique, and no particular issues.I think being able to select which eye I want to stick too like newer cameras can do would be nice but no big deal.I need to move around more rather than just waiting for the shot and to give more instructions.The lens itself, even though it's only the second use, first proper use I think has taken the spot as my favourite over and above the 70-200 2.8 ii.Appreciate the advice, support and putting up with me.

cpharm86 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:Just recovering from Chicken PoxNice shot, at F/2.8, cute photo. So far no need for f/2.0I have plenty of other images at F2.0 and also much smaller. If I had used the 24-105 f4 i couldn't have got this shot.It's 61mm so the 70-200 wouldn't have worked.So far sounds like it's earning it's sand 🤣

Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:Great shot!That lens has a really nice rendering. Large front elements are great, even when shooting stopped down a bit.Thanks Thunder.I've tried to take on the advice for camera setup, my technique, and no particular issues.I think being able to select which eye I want to stick too like newer cameras can do would be nice but no big deal.On the R5 I use the joystick for that. You can also use the touch screen, but that's not as nice.On the A7IV  I have a button for switching eyes. The R5 does - when going to the right - "left eye person A - right eye person A - left eye person B - right eye person B - left eye person C,"  etc.  The A7IV doesn't do that unfortunately. But the R5 doesn't fit my 50mm f/1.2 GM....  There's a cloud in every silver lining. ;-).I need to move around more rather than just waiting for the shot and to give more instructions.The lens itself, even though it's only the second use, first proper use I think has taken the spot as my favourite over and above the 70-200 2.8 ii.Appreciate the advice, support and putting up with me.

thunder storm wrote:Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:Great shot!That lens has a really nice rendering. Large front elements are great, even when shooting stopped down a bit.Thanks Thunder.I've tried to take on the advice for camera setup, my technique, and no particular issues.I think being able to select which eye I want to stick too like newer cameras can do would be nice but no big deal.On the R5 I use the joystick for that. You can also use the touch screen, but that's not as nice.So once it's found an eye you then use the joystick? (In R5 also(On the A7IV I have a button for switching eyes. The R5 does - when going to the right - "left eye person A - right eye person A - left eye person B - right eye person B - left eye person C," etc.I'm not sure I know how to do that.The A7IV doesn't do that unfortunately. But the R5 doesn't fit my 50mm f/1.2 GM.... There's a cloud in every silver lining. ;-).Ha yes absolutelyI need to move around more rather than just waiting for the shot and to give more instructions.The lens itself, even though it's only the second use, first proper use I think has taken the spot as my favourite over and above the 70-200 2.8 ii.Appreciate the advice, support and putting up with me.

Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:Great shot!That lens has a really nice rendering. Large front elements are great, even when shooting stopped down a bit.Thanks Thunder.I've tried to take on the advice for camera setup, my technique, and no particular issues.I think being able to select which eye I want to stick too like newer cameras can do would be nice but no big deal.On the R5 I use the joystick for that. You can also use the touch screen, but that's not as nice.So once it's found an eye you then use the joystick?That's what I do. I have eye AF turned on, and continuous AF as well. Just try it. If you don't have test persons use a picture.Sometimes I turn eye AF off, and use a dedicated button for AFing on eyes. Not sure if it works too in these cases (doesn't work for me ergonomically anyway to push that button and operate the joystick ate the same time)On the A7IV I have a button for switching eyes. The R5 does - when going to the right - "left eye person A - right eye person A - left eye person B - right eye person B - left eye person C," etc.I'm not sure I know how to do that.Just use the joystick. Left and right. That's all. If it doesn't work you might need to assign that function to the joystick, I don't remember if I ever did that.The A7IV doesn't do that unfortunately. But the R5 doesn't fit my 50mm f/1.2 GM.... There's a cloud in every silver lining. ;-).Ha yes absolutelyI need to move around more rather than just waiting for the shot and to give more instructions.The lens itself, even though it's only the second use, first proper use I think has taken the spot as my favourite over and above the 70-200 2.8 ii.Appreciate the advice, support and putting up with me.

thunder storm wrote:Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:Ephemeris wrote:thunder storm wrote:Great shot!That lens has a really nice rendering. Large front elements are great, even when shooting stopped down a bit.Thanks Thunder.I've tried to take on the advice for camera setup, my technique, and no particular issues.I think being able to select which eye I want to stick too like newer cameras can do would be nice but no big deal.On the R5 I use the joystick for that. You can also use the touch screen, but that's not as nice.So once it's found an eye you then use the joystick?That's what I do. I have eye AF turned on, and continuous AF as well. Just try it. If you don't have test persons use a picture.Sometimes I turn eye AF off, and use a dedicated button for AFing on eyes. Not sure if it works too in these cases (doesn't work for me ergonomically anyway to push that button and operate the joystick ate the same time)On the A7IV I have a button for switching eyes. The R5 does - when going to the right - "left eye person A - right eye person A - left eye person B - right eye person B - left eye person C," etc.I'm not sure I know how to do that.Just use the joystick. Left and right. That's all. If it doesn't work you might need to assign that function to the joystick, I don't remember if I ever did that.Thanks Thunder I will give it a try.  I have it set so that I have BBF if eye doesn't work and I can press * to turn eye off. That's about as fancy as I getThe A7IV doesn't do that unfortunately. But the R5 doesn't fit my 50mm f/1.2 GM.... There's a cloud in every silver lining. ;-).Ha yes absolutelyI need to move around more rather than just waiting for the shot and to give more instructions.The lens itself, even though it's only the second use, first proper use I think has taken the spot as my favourite over and above the 70-200 2.8 ii.Appreciate the advice, support and putting up with me.

Ephemeris wrote:cpharm86 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:Just recovering from Chicken PoxNice shot, at F/2.8, cute photo. So far no need for f/2.0I have plenty of other images at F2.0 and also much smaller.What lens did you use for less than F/2.0?If I had used the 24-105 f4 i couldn't have got this shot.It's 61mm so the 70-200 wouldn't have worked.So far sounds like it's earning it's sand 🤣Glad to hear that!

R2D2 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:Hi FolkLens finally arrived but haven't had chance to use it myself as I've been travelling.Loons quitea big tool.I will be at a 3 year old child's birthday party on Saturday where I will be camera man.I would appreciate any tips on settings to help me grab photos of this child and her friends party.For example tracking settings and any advice on the shallow effects of the F2 aperture.Thanks folks in advanceHope I'm not too late for the party!Move a lot!Yeah!Show the kids their images on the LCD. They'll love it.Sometimes they love it too much and you are surrounded by them asking to see the pictures. I rather do it rarely.Don't wear a neck strap (camera should be up and at the ready 100% of the time).Yeah!Shoot wide open whenever you can.Yeah!!!Stop down when needed (photos will still have nice character).Why not, if it has the purpose (group shots)Shoot (silent shutter) bursts.At children party mostly even me myself and I do not hear the shutter. I am in EFSC most of the time. Also because I use flash(es).Turn off Exposure Simulation in low light.I'd rather say at VERY low light only. Otherwise it does not bring much.Use Eye AF with "Focal Point" Initial (not Auto Initial).Yeah, allways.AF Case 2.Works well.Lock focus if needed, then use the "lean" technique to place your focal plane.When there is the time for it. Which with childer might not be the case :-). Continuous AF with the Eye detection does it job very well.Avoid using flash if you can (it annoys your subjects).I use mostly on camera flash (rarely + remotes in corners) and people do not mind. And especially children are fully ignorant of it. It adds the spark to their eyes and eliminates unwanted strong shadows.It also helps significantly with keeping the ISO down --> less processing needed --> better final output.Set up better ambient lighting instead.Which is not posiible in many (majority) places.Shine a big LED lamp up into a corner.This I would avoid. It works weel in very small rooms. In larger rooms it will create very different light amounts near and far from the light. The quality of such light also very differs based on the position of the subject relatively to the light - facing it, from side, backlit. Very difficult to impossible to keep some consistency shot to shot.Shoot RAW and process with DxO PL6.Allways RAW and allways the SW which you are most familiar with and gives you the best results. DxO PL6 gives very processed looking images (as the one above) which do not fit everyone.Enjoy!Shooting children is alwys fun :-).R2Two snaps from yesterday:

cpharm86 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:cpharm86 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:Just recovering from Chicken PoxNice shot, at F/2.8, cute photo. So far no need for f/2.0I have plenty of other images at F2.0 and also much smaller.What lens did you use for less than F/2.0?Smaller would be F/>2 ?If I had used the 24-105 f4 i couldn't have got this shot.It's 61mm so the 70-200 wouldn't have worked.So far sounds like it's earning it's sand 🤣Glad to hear that!😀

Canon_Guy wrote:R2D2 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:Hi FolkLens finally arrived but haven't had chance to use it myself as I've been travelling.Loons quitea big tool.I will be at a 3 year old child's birthday party on Saturday where I will be camera man.I would appreciate any tips on settings to help me grab photos of this child and her friends party.For example tracking settings and any advice on the shallow effects of the F2 aperture.Thanks folks in advanceHope I'm not too late for the party!Move a lot!Yeah!Show the kids their images on the LCD. They'll love it.Sometimes they love it too much and you are surrounded by them asking to see the pictures. I rather do it rarely.Don't wear a neck strap (camera should be up and at the ready 100% of the time).Yeah!Shoot wide open whenever you can.Yeah!!!Stop down when needed (photos will still have nice character).Why not, if it has the purpose (group shots)Shoot (silent shutter) bursts.At children party mostly even me myself and I do not hear the shutter. I am in EFSC most of the time. Also because I use flash(es).Turn off Exposure Simulation in low light.I'd rather say at VERY low light only. Otherwise it does not bring much.Use Eye AF with "Focal Point" Initial (not Auto Initial).Yeah, allways.AF Case 2.Works well.Lock focus if needed, then use the "lean" technique to place your focal plane.When there is the time for it. Which with childer might not be the case :-). Continuous AF with the Eye detection does it job very well.Avoid using flash if you can (it annoys your subjects).I use mostly on camera flash (rarely + remotes in corners) and people do not mind. And especially children are fully ignorant of it. It adds the spark to their eyes and eliminates unwanted strong shadows.It also helps significantly with keeping the ISO down --> less processing needed --> better final output.Set up better ambient lighting instead.Which is not posiible in many (majority) places.Shine a big LED lamp up into a corner.This I would avoid. It works weel in very small rooms. In larger rooms it will create very different light amounts near and far from the light. The quality of such light also very differs based on the position of the subject relatively to the light - facing it, from side, backlit. Very difficult to impossible to keep some consistency shot to shot.Shoot RAW and process with DxO PL6.Allways RAW and allways the SW which you are most familiar with and gives you the best results. DxO PL6 gives very processed looking images (as the one above) which do not fit everyone.Enjoy!Shooting children is alwys fun :-).R2Two snaps from yesterday:Thanks that's really helpful and great snaps.What flash are you using and are you bouncing off the ceiling?

I have Canons 580EX II and 430 RT III.Bouncing from the ceiling whenever it is possible. Or attach a small diffuser to it where ceiling is too high, black or otherwise not suitable for bouncing.

Ephemeris wrote:R2D2 wrote:Hope I'm not too late for the party!Nope hasn't started yet. I'm still at the cleaning stage🤣 why do we clean before a kids party? Madness.Move a lot!Got thatShow the kids their images on the LCD. They'll love it.Got thatDon't wear a neck strap (camera should be up and at the ready 100% of the time).Got thatShoot wide open whenever you can.Got thatStop down when needed (photos will still have nice character).UnderstoodShoot (silent shutter) bursts.I'm ECFS shooting?Turn off Exposure Simulation in low light.Okay - I've read many things but for the sake of dragging up old dead wood why do you do this? (If I ask you you can't be wrong 🤣)Use Eye AF with "Focal Point" Initial (not Auto Initial).Got thatAF Case 2Got thatLock focus if needed, then use the "lean" technique to place your focal plane.This sounds a great idea.Avoid using flash if you can (it annoys your subjects).No flash todaySet up better ambient lighting instead.Have some LED work lamps for upligjtibgShine a big LED lamp up into a corner.Got thatShoot RAW and process with DxO PL6.Adobe and Topaz are what we have. Usually shoot RAW + JPEGEnjoy!This is the most demanding request you have made so far 🤣R2Hope the travels were okay and thanks for the hints and tips.Oh - freshly formatted cars..Just recovering from Chicken PoxOuch! Chicken Pox!!!! I hope she was past the contagious stage!Be sure to give us a full rundown of the day when you get the chance!R2

Ephemeris wrote:cpharm86 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:cpharm86 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:Just recovering from Chicken PoxNice shot, at F/2.8, cute photo. So far no need for f/2.0I have plenty of other images at F2.0 and also much smaller.What lens did you use for less than F/2.0?Smaller would be F/>2 ?I meant did you need anything less than f/2?If I had used the 24-105 f4 i couldn't have got this shot.It's 61mm so the 70-200 wouldn't have worked.So far sounds like it's earning it's sand 🤣Glad to hear that!😀

cpharm86 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:cpharm86 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:cpharm86 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:Just recovering from Chicken PoxNice shot, at F/2.8, cute photo. So far no need for f/2.0I have plenty of other images at F2.0 and also much smaller.What lens did you use for less than F/2.0?Smaller would be F/>2 ?I meant did you need anything less than f/2?Oh my apologies. That's a hard one as I don't really have a comparison. In terms of light Vs shutterspeed no as we had the luxury of some bright sunshine which helped to uplift the roomsIf I had used the 24-105 f4 i couldn't have got this shot.It's 61mm so the 70-200 wouldn't have worked.So far sounds like it's earning it's sand 🤣Glad to hear that!😀

R2D2 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:R2D2 wrote:Hope I'm not too late for the party!Nope hasn't started yet. I'm still at the cleaning stage🤣 why do we clean before a kids party? Madness.Move a lot!Got thatShow the kids their images on the LCD. They'll love it.Got thatDon't wear a neck strap (camera should be up and at the ready 100% of the time).Got thatShoot wide open whenever you can.Got thatStop down when needed (photos will still have nice character).UnderstoodShoot (silent shutter) bursts.I'm ECFS shooting?Turn off Exposure Simulation in low light.Okay - I've read many things but for the sake of dragging up old dead wood why do you do this? (If I ask you you can't be wrong 🤣)Use Eye AF with "Focal Point" Initial (not Auto Initial).Got thatAF Case 2Got thatLock focus if needed, then use the "lean" technique to place your focal plane.This sounds a great idea.Avoid using flash if you can (it annoys your subjects).No flash todaySet up better ambient lighting instead.Have some LED work lamps for upligjtibgShine a big LED lamp up into a corner.Got thatShoot RAW and process with DxO PL6.Adobe and Topaz are what we have. Usually shoot RAW + JPEGEnjoy!This is the most demanding request you have made so far 🤣R2Hope the travels were okay and thanks for the hints and tips.Oh - freshly formatted cars..Just recovering from Chicken PoxOuch! Chicken Pox!!!! I hope she was past the contagious stage!Be sure to give us a full rundown of the day when you get the chance!R2I hope so or I'm going to be unhappy in a few days time.This one I grabbed towards some marketing material for my new anti wrinkle cream venture.

Ephemeris wrote:R2D2 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:R2D2 wrote:Hope I'm not too late for the party!Nope hasn't started yet. I'm still at the cleaning stage🤣 why do we clean before a kids party? Madness.Move a lot!Got thatShow the kids their images on the LCD. They'll love it.Got thatDon't wear a neck strap (camera should be up and at the ready 100% of the time).Got thatShoot wide open whenever you can.Got thatStop down when needed (photos will still have nice character).UnderstoodShoot (silent shutter) bursts.I'm ECFS shooting?Turn off Exposure Simulation in low light.Okay - I've read many things but for the sake of dragging up old dead wood why do you do this? (If I ask you you can't be wrong 🤣)Use Eye AF with "Focal Point" Initial (not Auto Initial).Got thatAF Case 2Got thatLock focus if needed, then use the "lean" technique to place your focal plane.This sounds a great idea.Avoid using flash if you can (it annoys your subjects).No flash todaySet up better ambient lighting instead.Have some LED work lamps for upligjtibgShine a big LED lamp up into a corner.Got thatShoot RAW and process with DxO PL6.Adobe and Topaz are what we have. Usually shoot RAW + JPEGEnjoy!This is the most demanding request you have made so far 🤣R2Hope the travels were okay and thanks for the hints and tips.Oh - freshly formatted cars..Just recovering from Chicken PoxOuch! Chicken Pox!!!! I hope she was past the contagious stage!Be sure to give us a full rundown of the day when you get the chance!R2I hope so or I'm going to be unhappy in a few days time.This one I grabbed towards some marketing material for my new anti wrinkle cream venture.There are Lensbaby Velvet lenses available for this kind of subjects.Is your subject a baby with a velvet skin? >> Use the sharpest lens you can find.Is your subject on the other side of the spectrum? >> use a Lensbaby Velvet lens.

thunder storm wrote:Ephemeris wrote:R2D2 wrote:Ephemeris wrote:R2D2 wrote:Hope I'm not too late for the party!Nope hasn't started yet. I'm still at the cleaning stage🤣 why do we clean before a kids party? Madness.Move a lot!Got thatShow the kids their images on the LCD. They'll love it.Got thatDon't wear a neck strap (camera should be up and at the ready 100% of the time).Got thatShoot wide open whenever you can.Got thatStop down when needed (photos will still have nice character).UnderstoodShoot (silent shutter) bursts.I'm ECFS shooting?Turn off Exposure Simulation in low light.Okay - I've read many things but for the sake of dragging up old dead wood why do you do this? (If I ask you you can't be wrong 🤣)Use Eye AF with "Focal Point" Initial (not Auto Initial).Got thatAF Case 2Got thatLock focus if needed, then use the "lean" technique to place your focal plane.This sounds a great idea.Avoid using flash if you can (it annoys your subjects).No flash todaySet up better ambient lighting instead.Have some LED work lamps for upligjtibgShine a big LED lamp up into a corner.Got thatShoot RAW and process with DxO PL6.Adobe and Topaz are what we have. Usually shoot RAW + JPEGEnjoy!This is the most demanding request you have made so far 🤣R2Hope the travels were okay and thanks for the hints and tips.Oh - freshly formatted cars..Just recovering from Chicken PoxOuch! Chicken Pox!!!! I hope she was past the contagious stage!Be sure to give us a full rundown of the day when you get the chance!R2I hope so or I'm going to be unhappy in a few days time.This one I grabbed towards some marketing material for my new anti wrinkle cream venture.There are Lensbaby Velvet lenses available for this kind of subjects.Is your subject a baby with a velvet skin? >> Use the sharpest lens you can find.Is your subject on the other side of the spectrum? >> use a Lensbaby Velvet lens.It'll buff out 🤣