I'd put the OM-1 sensor in the E-M10 ii -- won't happen so it's moot.

It would be nice to lose the antialias filter and the 4k crop (ala G9), steal the shutter from the gx9.

Mark Thornton wrote:It would be nice to lose the antialias filter and the 4k crop (ala G9), steal the shutter from the gx9.Really. It doesn't need much.A higher-res EVF, too.GX8 is the near-perfect camera in my book.

As title.GM5 does not allow IBIS. And I am assuming that by current sensor and processor you can get PDAF and e-shutter. There is nothing about the E-M5 that prohibits these functions.

E-M1X

Size and ergonomics work for me!Give it a tilting LCD and of course it must be environmentally sealed. And of course theTruePic X Dual Quad Core Processor!

Mark Thornton wrote:Hopefully that would also fix the 4K video crop.I don't think that was as much a physical limitations, as much as product segmentation.... Since we are in a hypothetical situation, we'll say they would give us nearly full sensor 4k (of course slightly cropped, to get the proper 16:9 ratio for video though).Fair enough?

I want the OM-1 in an E-M5 silver body.

Promeneur wrote:Size and ergonomics work for me!Give it a tilting LCD and of course it must be environmentally sealed. And of course theSee rules, they won't be fixing your screen articulation....the Pen-F was was actually the example given. Sorry to say the Pen-F isn't weather sealed either, so that wouldn't be added either.I actually made that part of the rules, because of cameras like the Pen-F, which had common complaints... Like WS and screen articulation.The Pen-F would likely be my choice too, but the screen:(TruePic X Dual Quad Core Processor!So then the question becomes, is the Pen F still the camera you would choose.

Some folks tried to add in a things that wouldn't be added, better evf, please change the gx8 articulating screen, etc. For the most part though, sounds like folks are pretty happy with gx8 and gm5 bodies, even with their downfalls.Looks like the 2 better built first e-m5 bodies got a little love too. I was actually expecting these two cams to get most of the love. They are built to top standards, they are weather-sealed, full metal cameras, that are small, but not so small they are irritating to use for long periods. They have good enough IBIS, and they can take the battery grip, if necessary. I think they make a very good case for a camera line that should go back to the roots, and give us back the premium build, on the next model.

Though to some extent the premise excluded the OM-1 which already has the latest sensor and firmware. Otherwise not much love for the larger members of the m4/3 family.Mark

NZ Scott wrote:Crazy Micro Four Thirds Dude wrote:If you could send in one of your older cameras, and hypothetically the new processor would be able to fit in place of the old one, and they would update the sensor to OM1 sensor, or the hypothetical PDAF upcoming Pany sensor, which camera would you send in.Panasonic GM5.If I were allowed three other upgrades, they would be:1) flip screenNo, thanks, this will increase the size of the camera, furthering it from the point of it (smallest, not just small).2) RX100-style pop-up viewfinderWould this actually make the camera smaller? If so how? Could they have fit that in a gm1? If they couldn't fit it in a gm1, the camera would need to be as big as the gm5 anyway, and at that point, although hidden evf is neat concept, seems like another breakable component, so no thanks.3) weather sealingI don't have anything bad to say about this idea, I would be for them adding weather sealing to a gm5ii.Then it would be the perfect camera for me.SThe rules are....Only one camera, please don't even tell your runner up. Tell us as much or as little as you want, of why you chose that camera, but please limit it to one.You must possess the body you are advocating for, we will cheat and say of you have broken dials, stuck shutter, etc, they would also be fixed for free, but you must have the camera body.You get the updated sensor and processor only (no complaining your PEN-F has a fully articulating and you want flip, or please also replace my field sequential evf on my gx85)..... Besides the processor and sensor, you are stuck with all the other components and build materials, it would be a modded cam, not a full reinvention.You get to keep all your lenses, so no need to tell us about em, just the camera you'd choose, and why (if you care to share).Please name your camera in the title, so if the discussion fills up, we can see majority cameras quickly from the thread string.

Crazy Micro Four Thirds Dude wrote:Promeneur wrote:Size and ergonomics work for me!Give it a tilting LCD and of course it must be environmentally sealed. And of course theSee rules, they won't be fixing your screen articulation....the Pen-F was was actually the example given. Sorry to say the Pen-F isn't weather sealed either, so that wouldn't be added either.I actually made that part of the rules, because of cameras like the Pen-F, which had common complaints... Like WS and screen articulation.The Pen-F would likely be my choice too, but the screen:(TruePic X Dual Quad Core Processor!So then the question becomes, is the Pen F still the camera you would choose.Ha ha!  Yeah, I realized I broke the rules after I posted!Then if you are giving me a do over, my choice would be my GX85.A very underrated camera.  It's actually what I started to say the first time and then changed to the PEN F.It's fun to dream and no more cameras for me until a new rangefinder comes out as that is what I prefer for travel and generally walking around.

The GX85 is smaller than the GX8 and we would be getting the same sensor and processor.  So, which is more important a smaller camera or a weather sealed camera?

Mark Thornton wrote:Though to some extent the premise excluded the OM-1 which already has the latest sensor and firmware. Otherwise not much love for the larger members of the m4/3 family.MarkI would kind of argue that the gx8 is actually one of the "larger" bodies.Say there's 5 sizes. Tiny (gm1/olympus air A01) Almost tiny (Gm5, gf3/4/5/6/7/8/9, e-pm1/2) Small (E-PL-line, gx85/9, E-P line, Pen-f) Large (e-m1 line, "G" line) Size doesn't matter (e-m1x, GH line)Where does the gx8 fit? I find that it would be considered bigger than Pen-F, gx85/9, e-p5, much bigger than e-pl line, and barely smaller than an e-m1.To me the e-m1 mark 1 is probably the smallest of the big grip cams, next to the gx8. Side by side, e-m1i and gx8 are nearly the same size.The body is so thick in the gx8, the kind of skinnier grip of the gx8 ends up protruding to the same over all thickness of the e-m1.If some one were to ask me if the gx8 was a small camera, I would probably answer "actually it's a rather big camera." I would call it the smallest "large" camera in the system.

> I would call it the smallest "large" camera in the system.That is fair, and perhaps why its sales were allegedly underwhelming. Not sufficiently distinguished from the G line.By the way you missed the EM-5/OM-5 from your size list. A bit bigger than the GX9.The GX1 is also missing but that is rather old now. I delayed getting the GX9 for quite a while over the size (and weight) increase. Never bought the GX8 for the same reason.Mark

Paul De Bra wrote:If at least it would also get electronic first curtain... the original E-M5 is still my favorite camera body. It has the tilting screen, not that tilt/swivel design that forces you to first turn the screen 180 degrees to the left before you can tilt.I didn't check about the screen, now I agree with you. That's also why I got an EM10 MkIV instead of an E-M5 MkIII.

An array of 20 new sensors in my yashica medium format TLR would be great!

Crazy Micro Four Thirds Dude wrote:NZ Scott wrote:Crazy Micro Four Thirds Dude wrote:If you could send in one of your older cameras, and hypothetically the new processor would be able to fit in place of the old one, and they would update the sensor to OM1 sensor, or the hypothetical PDAF upcoming Pany sensor, which camera would you send in.Panasonic GM5.If I were allowed three other upgrades, they would be:1) flip screenNo, thanks, this will increase the size of the camera, furthering it from the point of it (smallest, not just small).2) RX100-style pop-up viewfinderWould this actually make the camera smaller? If so how? Could they have fit that in a gm1?Probably yes. Instead of the popup flash (and the large flash capacitor that it needs underneath). It could hence indeed make for a slightly smaller GM5. Since GM1 is smaller than GM5.The pop-up EVF is a brilliant idea that Sony had. It first came out in the RX100 iii, released June 2014 - just 5 months before the GM5 came out.If they couldn't fit it in a gm1, the camera would need to be as big as the gm5 anyway, and at that point, although hidden evf is neat concept, seems like another breakable component, so no thanks.3) weather sealingno way without a considerable size increase, like some 5mm in each direction. But then, that would definitely still qualify for the smallest ILC with EVF and weather sealing ever made.....I don't have anything bad to say about this idea, I would be for them adding weather sealing to a gm5ii.Then it would be the perfect camera for me.SThe rules are....Only one camera, please don't even tell your runner up. Tell us as much or as little as you want, of why you chose that camera, but please limit it to one.You must possess the body you are advocating for, we will cheat and say of you have broken dials, stuck shutter, etc, they would also be fixed for free, but you must have the camera body.You get the updated sensor and processor only (no complaining your PEN-F has a fully articulating and you want flip, or please also replace my field sequential evf on my gx85)..... Besides the processor and sensor, you are stuck with all the other components and build materials, it would be a modded cam, not a full reinvention.You get to keep all your lenses, so no need to tell us about em, just the camera you'd choose, and why (if you care to share).Please name your camera in the title, so if the discussion fills up, we can see majority cameras quickly from the thread string.

Crazy Micro Four Thirds Dude wrote:Some folks tried to add in a things that wouldn't be added, better evf, please change the gx8 articulating screen, etc. For the most part though, sounds like folks are pretty happy with gx8 and gm5 bodies, even with their downfalls.Looks like the 2 better built first e-m5 bodies got a little love too. I was actually expecting these two cams to get most of the love. They are built to top standards, they are weather-sealed, full metal cameras, that are small, but not so small they are irritating to use for long periods. They have good enough IBIS, and they can take the battery grip, if necessary. I think they make a very good case for a camera line that should go back to the roots, and give us back the premium build, on the next model.That is true. But the EM5 or GX bodies with new sensor/processors would not suddenly become something unique, that cannot be otherwise bought right off the shelf.The GM5 on the other hand does not have an off the shelf successor. That is why it is the body that would benefit the most from such upgrade. Maybe along with the Pen-F, which has no successor either.