Le Chef wrote:From a business standpoint that doesn’t make sense. …I would suspect that all of us that have participated in this thread will be greatly surprised at whatever comes our way … whenever the unveiling occurs.David

You can continue to respond to hypotheticals but you're just.......................If a Q3 is announced, we will then see. Whatever Q3 will emerge, it is already done and in the works.

DenverSteve wrote:You can continue to respond to hypotheticals but you're just......................EXCELLENT cartoon under the circumstances … thanks Steve.If a Q3 is announced, we will then see. Whatever Q3 will emerge, it is already done and in the works.this forum, this thread may be too late to influence the Q3, but we may have a mighty impact on the Q4.David

Texas_Stars wrote:DenverSteve wrote:You can continue to respond to hypotheticals but you're just......................EXCELLENT cartoon under the circumstances … thanks Steve.If a Q3 is announced, we will then see. Whatever Q3 will emerge, it is already done and in the works.this forum, this thread may be too late to influence the Q3, but we may have a mighty impact on the Q4.DavidYeah!lets move on to q4..shall we be adding to the above pages…or start a new thread?Me first:I want  q4 to have mini cappuccino maker…80mp sensor…and go out and take pictures for me on frosty days…

Modlin wrote:Texas_Stars wrote:DenverSteve wrote:You can continue to respond to hypotheticals but you're just......................EXCELLENT cartoon under the circumstances … thanks Steve.If a Q3 is announced, we will then see. Whatever Q3 will emerge, it is already done and in the works.this forum, this thread may be too late to influence the Q3, but we may have a mighty impact on the Q4.DavidYeah!lets move on to q4..shall we be adding to the above pages…or start a new thread?Me first:I want q4 to have mini cappuccino maker…80mp sensor…and go out and take pictures for me on frosty days…Sorry, you guys are way behind...

Agree. Dumb hypotheticals are a waste of time.

iPhone is gonna be there before Q3 is shipped

Le Chef wrote:Agree. Dumb hypotheticals are a waste of time.If we were to create an equation defining “Q3 Anticipation,” dumb hypotheticals would be in that equation … I’m happy with them as they can be on the creative side.David

Le Chef wrote:From a business standpoint that doesn’t make sense. You want your existing Q and Q2 owners to trade in and trade up to a Q3 (name your improvements here). A Q3 with upgrades but only a longer facial length would likely not achieve Leica’s growth objectives.if you really insist on a longer focal length then introduce a Q3 with both options, but I still don’t understand why.if the Q3 is supposed to get the 60MP pixel binning sensor you can crop to your heart’s content without Leica needing to re engineer the whole camera for a lens that’s not needed.Digital cropping works great on the Q2 (and will work even better on a higher mp sensor), but digital cropping is not the same as working with a longer focal length.I'm definitely in the camp of hoping there will be 2 models and that one of them will be a 50mm (ideally an F2 APO).

Texas_Stars wrote:Every morning I am hoping to see an official announcement regarding the Leica Q3 and what lens it will have ... waiting ... waiting ... hoping for my choice, but only time will tell ... hope for good news sometime this year.Am I the only one waiting and hopeful?DavidA better use of your morning time could be being outside trying to make a good picture.

I guess this is the end of my desire to buy the Q3.I don’t know anyone personally that has a Leica, and my plans were to use this Leica Forum to learn more, find solutions to problems, and most importantly to enjoy camaraderie of like-minded Leica Q3 users.Instead of being thrilled with Q3 ownership, I will be happy buying an iPhone 15 Pro Max.C’est la vie,David

Texas_Stars wrote:I guess this is the end of my desire to buy the Q3.I don’t know anyone personally that has a Leica, and my plans were to use this Leica Forum to learn more, find solutions to problems, and most importantly to enjoy camaraderie of like-minded Leica Q3 users.Instead of being thrilled with Q3 ownership, I will be happy buying an iPhone 15 Pro Max.C’est la vie,DavidIf you'd like to move to a new forum specifically around the Leica Q series, this one is very active -https://www.l-camera-forum.com/forum/222-leica-q-leica-q2/There are some great photographers over there, and I've found it very helpful. All the best!

I guess if your relationship with Leica is that flimsy that it depends on being part of a forum that’s a sad indictment of your your ability to think independently.If you need the warmth and comfort of other Leica owners, as has been mentioned already, there is another forum that specifically discusses the Q series.

Le Chef wrote:I guess if your relationship with Leica is that flimsy that it depends on being part of a forum that’s a sad indictment of your your ability to think independently.It is not flimsy at all … I am most happy with my LEICA d-lux 7, and I have two friends who consider my portraits of them taken with my LEICA C, type 102, plus all my very popular GigaPans taken with my LEICA d-lux 3.I am 80 years of age with multiple health problems, but I was willing to take the risk of buying the Q3 at a price point of $7000 or more … everything was to fall in place based on what I wrote this morning. However, the rug has now been pulled with the demise of dpreview. I am very have a warm relationship with LEICA … it’s basically a financial trade off.please don’t be so cruel unless you know all the details.david

Texas_Stars wrote:Le Chef wrote:I guess if your relationship with Leica is that flimsy that it depends on being part of a forum that’s a sad indictment of your your ability to think independently.It is not flimsy at all … I am most happy with my LEICA d-lux 7, and I have two friends who consider my portraits of them taken with my LEICA C, type 102, plus all my very popular GigaPans taken with my LEICA d-lux 3.I am 80 years of age with multiple health problems, but I was willing to take the risk of buying the Q3 at a price point of $7000 or more … everything was to fall in place based on what I wrote this morning. However, the rug has now been pulled with the demise of dpreview. I am very have a warm relationship with LEICA … it’s basically a financial trade off.please don’t be so cruel unless you know all the details.davidI'd normally bite my tongue and not say anything, but DPR is going away, so if I get banned it won't make much difference.Anyway, Le Chef sounds like a 100% pompous jerk.

Texas_Stars wrote:Le Chef wrote:I guess if your relationship with Leica is that flimsy that it depends on being part of a forum that’s a sad indictment of your your ability to think independently.It is not flimsy at all … I am most happy with my LEICA d-lux 7, and I have two friends who consider my portraits of them taken with my LEICA C, type 102, plus all my very popular GigaPans taken with my LEICA d-lux 3.I am 80 years of age with multiple health problems, but I was willing to take the risk of buying the Q3 at a price point of $7000 or more … everything was to fall in place based on what I wrote this morning. However, the rug has now been pulled with the demise of dpreview. I am very have a warm relationship with LEICA … it’s basically a financial trade off.please don’t be so cruel unless you know all the details.davidI would encourage you to explore the Leica forum, abbreviated "LUF", here -https://www.l-camera-forum.com/forum/3-international-user-forum/Even if you don't buy a Q3, it has more information specifically for Leica users than DPR. It even has entirely separate forums for D-Lux users, and separate forums for all other types of Leica cameras.I am relatively new to Leica, but I was already spending more time there than here. It's not the same, and I like some things better here, but it is the best alternative (AFAIK). I don't know about other forums on DPR for other camera gear, but I think that LUF will take over a lot of the activity from the Leica forum here.BTW, I like that there seem to be more Leica images over there and some really talented photographers.I hope you can make it over there; I think you'll enjoy it.

Le Chef wrote:I guess if your relationship with Leica is that flimsy that it depends on being part of a forum that’s a sad indictment of your your ability to think independently.If you need the warmth and comfort of other Leica owners, as has been mentioned already, there is another forum that specifically discusses the Q series.Forgetting that he has 3x the time invested in the site that you do, your comments were/are rude and unacceptable.

Ed B wrote:Texas_Stars wrote:Le Chef wrote:I guess if your relationship with Leica is that flimsy that it depends on being part of a forum that’s a sad indictment of your your ability to think independently.It is not flimsy at all … I am most happy with my LEICA d-lux 7, and I have two friends who consider my portraits of them taken with my LEICA C, type 102, plus all my very popular GigaPans taken with my LEICA d-lux 3.I am 80 years of age with multiple health problems, but I was willing to take the risk of buying the Q3 at a price point of $7000 or more … everything was to fall in place based on what I wrote this morning. However, the rug has now been pulled with the demise of dpreview. I am very have a warm relationship with LEICA … it’s basically a financial trade off.please don’t be so cruel unless you know all the details.davidI'd normally bite my tongue and not say anything, but DPR is going away, so if I get banned it won't make much difference.Anyway, Le Chef sounds like a 100% pompous jerk.I vectored towards the Le Chef thoughts, but, not everyone can either express or communicate to the way we would like/appreciate.. There are many Leica connected Forums, whether or not a Q3 ever arrives is another matter. imho, I would jump for a Q2 and go from there. Nothing like using a Leica to cement ones love of both photography & gear.. L

YoPo wrote:I am not waitingBut if I could influence the successor of the Q2, than a smaller body-lens combination would be my top priority. The ability to have raw with less mega pixels would be my second wish.All the rest can stay the same because it’s as good as it can be for my needs.IMO coming from M the Q2 is already on the verge of being too small - any smaller and I’m not interested.

HeavyDuty wrote:YoPo wrote:I am not waitingBut if I could influence the successor of the Q2, than a smaller body-lens combination would be my top priority. The ability to have raw with less mega pixels would be my second wish.All the rest can stay the same because it’s as good as it can be for my needs.IMO coming from M the Q2 is already on the verge of being too small - any smaller and I’m not interested.Really? The M11 is 9MM (.35”) shorter in width and the same size in height and depth.  Hardly possible to feel such a small difference, let alone find the difference notable.