Maybe a f1.4 Pro 14mm or a f1.8 Premium Prime (weather sealed this time).The 14mm (28mm equiv.) focal length is a really classic one, and only the Pana pancake 14 2.5 has covered it. I know there is a PL 15 f1.7, but for those that like to keep Oly lenses on Oly cameras, and/ or get a true 28mm equiv. FL, I think a 14 could be quite popular. Priced a bit less than the PL 15 would help too for sales.

glassoholic wrote:Maybe a f1.4 Pro 14mm or a f1.8 Premium Prime (weather sealed this time).The 14mm (28mm equiv.) focal length is a really classic one, and only the Pana pancake 14 2.5 has covered it. I know there is a PL 15 f1.7, but for those that like to keep Oly lenses on Oly cameras, and/ or get a true 28mm equiv. FL, I think a 14 could be quite popular. Priced a bit less than the PL 15 would help too for sales.Perhaps to match their 20mm f/1.4... although that's some 50% dearer than the PL15.Peter

My wish: tiny 14/2.8 with extra strong flare resistance that makes sun-stars from f4.5

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I would love to own a 14/1.4 lens.

I would dig a 14/1.4 that is not bigger/heavier than the 20/1.4 and has better optical performance at long distances. As much as I love my 15/1.7 for its performance and tiny size, I miss weather sealing sometimes.

allematic wrote:I would dig a 14/1.4 that is not bigger/heavier than the 20/1.4 and has better optical performance at long distances. As much as I love my 15/1.7 for its performance and tiny size, I miss weather sealing sometimes.I was thinking the same thing. Has to be f1.4. Any slower I will just use my f2.8 zooms. Has to be weathered sealed. Has to be about the same size as the 20/1.4. If all my expectations i are met I will pre-order.

glassoholic wrote:Maybe a f1.4 Pro 14mm or a f1.8 Premium Prime (weather sealed this time).The 14mm (28mm equiv.) focal length is a really classic one, and only the Pana pancake 14 2.5 has covered it.14mm is already covered by many lenses. It does not make sense to build a new one.Panasonic has already 14mm F/2.5, 15 mm f/1.7 and 12mm F/1.4.Then most of the kit and PRO zooms include this focal length. We have also Sigma 16mm F/1.4 which is close. Olympus has 12mm F/2.0.While there are focal lengths for which we don't have yet any fix lens. Example: 8mm, 10mm, 100mm.

> While there are focal lengths for which we don't have yet any lens. Example: 10mm, 100mm.Though we now have 9mm and 90mm (albeit the later is a macro and 'only' f3.5).100mm is also well covered by zooms at f2.8, so a prime would need to be at least f2 if not even faster. I can't see a big market for such a lens.Mark

When I wrote 100mm, I thought about a portrait lens. Perhaps F/1.8...F/2.0. Perhaps it can be used for indoor sport too or indoor concerts. I see a market here because many guys complained that F/2.8 lenses are too slow for indoor action.90mm F/3.5 is too slow for portraits or indoor action. Better use a zoom like 35-100mm F/2.8 or 75mm F/1.8.

glassoholic wrote:Maybe a f1.4 Pro 14mm or a f1.8 Premium Prime (weather sealed this time).The 14mm (28mm equiv.) focal length is a really classic one, and only the Pana pancake 14 2.5 has covered it. I know there is a PL 15 f1.7, but for those that like to keep Oly lenses on Oly cameras,Why?What is the downside of using the Panny 15mm f/1.7 on an Oly body?and/ or get a true 28mm equiv. FL, I think a 14 could be quite popular. Priced a bit less than the PL 15 would help too for sales.Tedolph

Because 30mm FF FoV isn't 28mm FF FoV. Because there are no "classic" FF 28mm/2.8, no 135mm/2.5, nor 200mm/4 equivalent lenses in either primes or zoom. These focal length, once upon a time the most popular/affordable lenses outside the "normal range" have completely fallen out of fashion for some reason. That would be 14mm/1.4, 62.5mm/1.2 and 100mm/2 in MFT fov.

If they would build an 14mm F/1.4 which costs 1000$, how many people would buy it ?Panasonic 12mm F/1.4 costs 1300$.

I can understand that many folks might desire wide primes in f1.4.  But "need" ?  When I want to shoot wide--at 14mm--I have a perfectly usable 14-35mm f2 lens that performs superbly on my em1.2.   And if I am shooting wide, it's mostly likely a landscape and I want more DOF than f2, so I got to f5.6 or smaller.And my guess, like some others have suggested, is that a wide f1.4 lens is not going to be at a price point where many photographers will jump to own one.   But I may, of course, be totally wrong on that count.  I just wouldn't be interested.

tedolf wrote:glassoholic wrote:Maybe a f1.4 Pro 14mm or a f1.8 Premium Prime (weather sealed this time).The 14mm (28mm equiv.) focal length is a really classic one, and only the Pana pancake 14 2.5 has covered it. I know there is a PL 15 f1.7, but for those that like to keep Oly lenses on Oly cameras,Why?What is the downside of using the Panny 15mm f/1.7 on an Oly body?The only downside I can see is that the aperture ring doesn't work. But if Olympus released a similar lens, it wouldn't have an aperture ring, so that is moot. A theoretical Olympus lens might have clutch focus, but the 20/1.4 doesn't so I doubt a 14/1.4 would.Personally, the 15/1.7 is one of my favorite lenses to use on Olympus bodies. Small, light, excellent AF, excellent rendering, what's not to like?and/ or get a true 28mm equiv. FL, I think a 14 could be quite popular. Priced a bit less than the PL 15 would help too for sales.Tedolph

RSTP14 wrote:Because 30mm FF FoV isn't 28mm FF FoV.14mm isn't quite the same as 28mm on FF either. When you account for the difference in aspect ratios (3:2 vs 4:3), a 14mm lens is roughly as wide as a 31mm lens on FF (though you get more content on the top/bottom of the image). The 15mm is a little closer to the classic 35mm at ~33mm.A 12mm lens is closer at about 27mm when accounting for the aspect ratio difference. And there's good news, we already have a 12/1.4 with weather sealing from Panasonic if someone wants that ~28mm look.Because there are no "classic" FF 28mm/2.8, no 135mm/2.5, nor 200mm/4 equivalent lenses in either primes or zoom. These focal length, once upon a time the most popular/affordable lenses outside the "normal range" have completely fallen out of fashion for some reason. That would be 14mm/1.4, 62.5mm/1.2 and 100mm/2 in MFT fov.

RSTP14 wrote:Because 30mm FF FoV isn't 28mm FF FoV.True focal lengths of lenses vary widely, and rarely agree with what is written on the front. Your "classic" 28mm from film days might be 31mm or 27mm or whatever.

ausserirdischesindgesund wrote:RSTP14 wrote:Because 30mm FF FoV isn't 28mm FF FoV.True focal lengths of lenses vary widely, and rarely agree with what is written on the front. Your "classic" 28mm from film days might be 31mm or 27mm or whatever.Yes, this is an excellent point.Additionally, in real-world use, -/+ 1 or 2mm at these focal lengths doesn't make much difference. Now, with ultra-wide angle lenses at 14-15-16mm, it's noticeable, but 28-30mm? Moving forward or backward a few inches will generally make up the difference.

EarthQuake wrote:tedolf wrote:glassoholic wrote:Maybe a f1.4 Pro 14mm or a f1.8 Premium Prime (weather sealed this time).The 14mm (28mm equiv.) focal length is a really classic one, and only the Pana pancake 14 2.5 has covered it. I know there is a PL 15 f1.7, but for those that like to keep Oly lenses on Oly cameras,Why?What is the downside of using the Panny 15mm f/1.7 on an Oly body?The only downside I can see is that the aperture ring doesn't work. But if Olympus released a similar lens, it wouldn't have an aperture ring, so that is moot. A theoretical Olympus lens might have clutch focus, but the 20/1.4 doesn't so I doubt a 14/1.4 would.Personally, the 15/1.7 is one of my favorite lenses to use on Olympus bodies. Small, light, excellent AF, excellent rendering, what's not to like?and/ or get a true 28mm equiv. FL, I think a 14 could be quite popular. Priced a bit less than the PL 15 would help too for sales.TedolphYou are the only one who got the correct answer, or even understood the question.Tedollph

glassoholic wrote:Maybe a f1.4 Pro 14mm or a f1.8 Premium Prime (weather sealed this time).The 14mm (28mm equiv.) focal length is a really classic one, and only the Pana pancake 14 2.5 has covered it. I know there is a PL 15 f1.7, but for those that like to keep Oly lenses on Oly cameras, and/ or get a true 28mm equiv. FL, I think a 14 could be quite popular. Priced a bit less than the PL 15 would help too for sales.I believe any lens released by OMDS anywhere in the near future will be under the Pro umbrella. Therefore, a 14mm f/1.4 Pro. Price of the 20mm f/1.4 Pro is $800 USD. Wide angle lenses have historically been more expensive than those closer to normal AOV. Expect such a new lens to be $999 or higher.I know you did not specify wanting a Pro lens, but several in this thread have. And I don't think we will see any lower grade lenses coming from OMDS anytime soon.James