micro43.org: A place for Micro Four Thirds Talk to continue

Rmark

On a MAC using Safari this problem has been fixed, with no modification of the www prefix


Rmark

just hoping.....:-)


Tom749830

BobT3218 wrote:I welcome the attempt to set something up for us. However, my feeling is that the success, past success, of DPR was due to it being a cross-format site. Each format or user group had their silos of like-minded photogs but benefited from cross pollination and friendly rivalry of other platforms. There are already pure m4/3 sites but I suspect they lack the vibrancy that we have (had) with DPR.I agree. But there will be never a real second dpreview feeling anymore.For MFT only, I go tohttps://mftcommunity.comEven Richard Wong joined there.For a clone of dpreview, there is here a new attempt which looks good:https://dpreview.communitydummy.com/


River Photography

Rmark wrote:just hoping.....:-)there is no equivalence looking through the vf or an image.Rp


rodriguezPhoto

Tom749830 wrote:BobT3218 wrote:I welcome the attempt to set something up for us. However, my feeling is that the success, past success, of DPR was due to it being a cross-format site. Each format or user group had their silos of like-minded photogs but benefited from cross pollination and friendly rivalry of other platforms. There are already pure m4/3 sites but I suspect they lack the vibrancy that we have (had) with DPR.I agree. But there will be never a real second dpreview feeling anymore.For MFT only, I go tohttps://mftcommunity.comEven Richard Wong joined there.For a clone of dpreview, there is here a new attempt which looks good:https://dpreview.communitydummy.com/Is the above your site?


rodriguezPhoto

rodriguezPhoto wrote:Tom749830 wrote:BobT3218 wrote:I welcome the attempt to set something up for us. However, my feeling is that the success, past success, of DPR was due to it being a cross-format site. Each format or user group had their silos of like-minded photogs but benefited from cross pollination and friendly rivalry of other platforms. There are already pure m4/3 sites but I suspect they lack the vibrancy that we have (had) with DPR.I agree. But there will be never a real second dpreview feeling anymore.For MFT only, I go tohttps://mftcommunity.comEven Richard Wong joined there.For a clone of dpreview, there is here a new attempt which looks good:https://dpreview.communitydummy.com/Is the above your site?Actually, I just realized that the above looks very similar to this one, but it is mft only.  Same administrator though:https://mftcommunity.com/community/


faunagraphy

coastmountaineer wrote:Thanks for flagging that!www.micro43.org *should* just redirect tohttps://micro43.org. I set up the "www" subdomain as well as the main domain and there shouldn't be a certificate issue. However, it is possible that because the site is so new, DNS hasn't fully propagated around the world for everyone yet. This ought to go away on its own, if it doesn't, I can look into it further.Hi coastmountaineer,First off,thank you!I've just signed up and I'll be happy to volunteer as moderator if you need one.Secondly, your post above was 3 days ago. I'd like to report that I received the security warning as well (Firefox, Windows 11). I removed the "https", i.e. just "www" which fixed the problem. I am using Surfshark VPN and my current location is San Francisco.


JuhaV

This is good. working great!


strawbale

Tom749830 wrote:BobT3218 wrote:I welcome the attempt to set something up for us. However, my feeling is that the success, past success, of DPR was due to it being a cross-format site. Each format or user group had their silos of like-minded photogs but benefited from cross pollination and friendly rivalry of other platforms. There are already pure m4/3 sites but I suspect they lack the vibrancy that we have (had) with DPR.I agree. But there will be never a real second dpreview feeling anymore.For MFT only, I go tohttps://mftcommunity.comEven Richard Wong joined there.For a clone of dpreview, there is here a new attempt which looks good:https://dpreview.communitydummy.com/Both these two sites seem to be run by (a) Dirk in Germany - coincidence?


Tom749830

strawbale wrote:Tom749830 wrote:BobT3218 wrote:I welcome the attempt to set something up for us. However, my feeling is that the success, past success, of DPR was due to it being a cross-format site. Each format or user group had their silos of like-minded photogs but benefited from cross pollination and friendly rivalry of other platforms. There are already pure m4/3 sites but I suspect they lack the vibrancy that we have (had) with DPR.I agree. But there will be never a real second dpreview feeling anymore.For MFT only, I go tohttps://mftcommunity.comEven Richard Wong joined there.For a clone of dpreview, there is here a new attempt which looks good:https://dpreview.communitydummy.com/Both these two sites seem to be run by (a) Dirk in Germany - coincidence?No coincidence. He has many photocommunity sites. He sais he is specialized in community forums since 20 years. So no wonder that he is offering a lot.That is a very positive thing. I do not want to join a community forum, if there is a doubt about longterm committment. At the beginning everybody is hyped and wants to start something. But what is after 5 or 10 years?We all have seen many forums come and go. Many have been sold, many changed the owner and went south. Many did not want to pay the bills or have the work with it longterm.I prefer a stable platforms with experienced owners who do photography as their own hobby and offer it for free.


Jappie52

Tom749830 wrote:...No coincidence. He has many photocommunity sites. He sais he is specialized in community forums since 20 years. So no wonder that he is offering a lot.That is a very positive thing. I do not want to join a community forum, if there is a doubt about longterm committment. At the beginning everybody is hyped and wants to start something. But what is after 5 or 10 years?We all have seen many forums come and go. Many have been sold, many changed the owner and went south. Many did not want to pay the bills or have the work with it longterm.I prefer a stable platforms with experienced ownerswho do photography as their own hobby and offer it for free.How does that guarantee stability and long term commitment ???


Tom749830

Jappie52 wrote:Tom749830 wrote:...No coincidence. He has many photocommunity sites. He sais he is specialized in community forums since 20 years. So no wonder that he is offering a lot.That is a very positive thing. I do not want to join a community forum, if there is a doubt about longterm committment. At the beginning everybody is hyped and wants to start something. But what is after 5 or 10 years?We all have seen many forums come and go. Many have been sold, many changed the owner and went south. Many did not want to pay the bills or have the work with it longterm.I prefer a stable platforms with experienced ownerswho do photography as their own hobby and offer it for free.How does that guarantee stability and long term commitment ???This is why we are in the situation right now. Behind dpreview is no private hobby photographer. Now it is closing.If you see that someone is doing community forum management for 20 years now, it is a lot more futureproof than if someone just starts out new. That is a no-brainer.I do not know how many forums you follwowed over the last 10 or 20 years, but I do not know a single one, which survived as a payed access site.


kalisti

Back on topic, so farhttps://micro43.orghas worked out well, quite a few DPR members have joined, lots of posts and activity, not something I've found on any of the other alternatives I have my eye on so far.


Jan Steinman

DrHook59 wrote:TheRealYeats wrote:mu-43 had an exodus of users after founder Amin Sabet sold it off to VerticalScope.Yes, that's correct. Many people did not like the TOS (terms of service) which some took to mean all their posted images would be owned and used by the new owners.In my case, someone hacked my account and posted stolen gear in the "for sale" area, and I was banned.I was not able to get anyone there to answer my plea, and I could not make a new account. ("Waiting for admin approval.")So, I gave it up for about a year.But not too long ago, an admin contacted me about my year-old request, and we straightened it out, and I could get back on again.But for a while there, it looked like there was no adult supervision.


Jan Steinman

kalisti wrote:I do have a question, it seems like the site pulled my emails avatar over and its now my avatar on the site, is that intended?They seem to be using Gravitar. You can change it.I put a seldom-used avatar in athttp://en.gravitar.com, so I can tell when someone pulled it.


Jan Steinman

DrHook59 wrote:Mel C wrote:I am not surprised that Amin Sabre sold off the site.This is a bizarre post, Mel. Surely running a website for profit is something not entirely unusual in this day and age?My thoughts exactly.This is why I'm interested in ownership and governance issues.The site to get my allegiance will be organized as a non-profit with a board from among the user base. That's theonlyway to guarantee that it won't be "sold off" — non-profits can only be transferred to other non-profits.Has anyone on mu-43 EVER had their photos stolen?People really take themselves waaaaay too seriously. You can ask ChatGBT to make you an image that is probably better than the ones you're so worried will get stolen!Besides, I make it a point to post the same photos on multiple sites. That way, should one of them attempt to profit from one of my photos, I'll let the other sites know that they should sue the first site.Hopefully, each site's lawyers will simultaneously kill off the other site.


Jan Steinman

Columbusrat wrote:I really like being able to see the exif data and camera/lens details. Is there any chance that micro43.org could introduce this at some point?I agree, it's nice to have it in a site-consistent format, but one can get browser plugins that will allow you to see EXIF data.For example:https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=firefox+exif+plugin&ia=weblists a half-dozen different Firefox plugins for EXIF.


Jan Steinman

TheRealYeats wrote:mu-43 is still "free"…The site seems to be faltering under the new ownership. The latest problem involves members who paid for their subscription but have not had the new features enabled, and the current ownership (VerticalScope) has been unresponsive.Yes, I was banned for about a year because someone hacked my account and posted stolen gear for sale. Then I couldn't get anyone to answer me. I created several new accounts, and for a year, they all said, "Awaiting admin approval."Then recently, a volunteer admin contacted me about one of the messages I sent them a year ago, and we finally got things straightened out.


Jan Steinman

Jappie52 wrote:Tom749830 wrote:I prefer a stable platforms with experienced ownerswho do photography as their own hobby and offer it for free.How does that guarantee stability and long term commitment ???I agree.The first site organized as a non-profit with a board from among users will have my allegiance.I've done a lot of co-op and non-profit organization work in Canada and the US. I'm willing to help!Wikipedia is a fine example of a non-profit functional anarchy that is not going to go away!No matter how good a sole owner's intentions, there is so much that can go wrong:


Jan Steinman

Tom749830 wrote:If you see that someone is doing community forum management for 20 years now, it is a lot more futureproof than if someone just starts out new.A sole-owner situation is only as disaster-proof as that owner is. Don't notice the traffic light changed, and it could all be history.This is why I favour a non-profit with a board. You need as many disasters as there are board members to make it "go away."


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