coastmountaineer wrote:Hi everyone. Longtime lurker here. I have been visiting these forums on a very regular basis for years, but never created an account, because I preferred to read rather than post. The discussions here have been truly insightful and helpful to my photography.Today I arrived to catch up on the latest discussions and found out DPReview is shutting down. That really, really, really bothers me.In terms of alternatives, I know there's mu-forums, but I also know many folks aren't a fan of their terms of service. There's lots of comments here asking, "where do we go now?"I have IT knowledge and know how to spin up websites quickly. So, I made a Discourse server in case folks here want someplace fresh and new to migrate to.You'll find the server atmicro43.org.(I was shocked the domain was available, but it was, so I registered it!)There are no ads on it and no surveillance scripts. No affiliate links. You don't have to agree to onerous terms to use it. It's just a nice, clean Discourse server, ready for users to make their home.If this sounds appealing to you, please sign up. I'm happy to keep it going, find co-admins and enlist moderators to ensure it's not a one-person show.Why'd I make it? Well, I just could not sit still after I read the DPReview announcement and all of the comments here. It's so infuriating that a rich and vibrant community would just get dumped and abandoned like this, so I used my expertise to build something that might be capable of possibly replacing it. This is an experiment.Your participation will decide whether it's a success or not.I'm really impressed with Discourse and what it offers, it's well thought out software that has a future. The interface is modern and the signup process is pretty straightforward. This can't fully replace what Amazon is killing off here, but it can be part of the solution. It won't be owned by a giant corporation, that's for sure! If it takes off, perhaps we can form a community association to ensure its long term health and governance.Her is the message I received.Safari.

VS80 wrote:coastmountaineer wrote:Hi everyone. Longtime lurker here. I have been visiting these forums on a very regular basis for years, but never created an account, because I preferred to read rather than post. The discussions here have been truly insightful and helpful to my photography.Today I arrived to catch up on the latest discussions and found out DPReview is shutting down. That really, really, really bothers me.In terms of alternatives, I know there's mu-forums, but I also know many folks aren't a fan of their terms of service. There's lots of comments here asking, "where do we go now?"I have IT knowledge and know how to spin up websites quickly. So, I made a Discourse server in case folks here want someplace fresh and new to migrate to.You'll find the server atmicro43.org.(I was shocked the domain was available, but it was, so I registered it!)There are no ads on it and no surveillance scripts. No affiliate links. You don't have to agree to onerous terms to use it. It's just a nice, clean Discourse server, ready for users to make their home.If this sounds appealing to you, please sign up. I'm happy to keep it going, find co-admins and enlist moderators to ensure it's not a one-person show.Why'd I make it? Well, I just could not sit still after I read the DPReview announcement and all of the comments here. It's so infuriating that a rich and vibrant community would just get dumped and abandoned like this, so I used my expertise to build something that might be capable of possibly replacing it. This is an experiment.Your participation will decide whether it's a success or not.I'm really impressed with Discourse and what it offers, it's well thought out software that has a future. The interface is modern and the signup process is pretty straightforward. This can't fully replace what Amazon is killing off here, but it can be part of the solution. It won't be owned by a giant corporation, that's for sure! If it takes off, perhaps we can form a community association to ensure its long term health and governance.Her is the message I received.Safari.Just try another forum which uses a better forum software. Look at this MFT community:https://mftcommunity.com/

Drop the "www." part of the URL: https://micro43.org

Jan Steinman wrote:TheRealYeats wrote:mu-43 is still "free"…The site seems to be faltering under the new ownership. The latest problem involves members who paid for their subscription but have not had the new features enabled, and the current ownership (VerticalScope) has been unresponsive.Yes, I was banned for about a year because someone hacked my account and posted stolen gear for sale. Then I couldn't get anyone to answer me. I created several new accounts, and for a year, they all said, "Awaiting admin approval."Then recently, a volunteer admin contacted me about one of the messages I sent them a year ago, and we finally got things straightened out.YIKES!!!  That is terrible, on all accounts.

Tom749830 wrote:VS80 wrote:coastmountaineer wrote:Hi everyone. Longtime lurker here. I have been visiting these forums on a very regular basis for years, but never created an account, because I preferred to read rather than post. The discussions here have been truly insightful and helpful to my photography.Today I arrived to catch up on the latest discussions and found out DPReview is shutting down. That really, really, really bothers me.In terms of alternatives, I know there's mu-forums, but I also know many folks aren't a fan of their terms of service. There's lots of comments here asking, "where do we go now?"I have IT knowledge and know how to spin up websites quickly. So, I made a Discourse server in case folks here want someplace fresh and new to migrate to.You'll find the server atmicro43.org.(I was shocked the domain was available, but it was, so I registered it!)There are no ads on it and no surveillance scripts. No affiliate links. You don't have to agree to onerous terms to use it. It's just a nice, clean Discourse server, ready for users to make their home.If this sounds appealing to you, please sign up. I'm happy to keep it going, find co-admins and enlist moderators to ensure it's not a one-person show.Why'd I make it? Well, I just could not sit still after I read the DPReview announcement and all of the comments here. It's so infuriating that a rich and vibrant community would just get dumped and abandoned like this, so I used my expertise to build something that might be capable of possibly replacing it. This is an experiment.Your participation will decide whether it's a success or not.I'm really impressed with Discourse and what it offers, it's well thought out software that has a future. The interface is modern and the signup process is pretty straightforward. This can't fully replace what Amazon is killing off here, but it can be part of the solution. It won't be owned by a giant corporation, that's for sure! If it takes off, perhaps we can form a community association to ensure its long term health and governance.Her is the message I received.Safari.Just try another forum which uses a better forum software. Look at this MFT community:https://mftcommunity.com/Stop spamming the thread with your forum link please.The OP's forum works well and has many members.https://micro43.orgworks fine on most if not all browsers.

VS80 wrote:coastmountaineer wrote:Hi everyone. Longtime lurker here. I have been visiting these forums on a very regular basis for years, but never created an account, because I preferred to read rather than post. The discussions here have been truly insightful and helpful to my photography.Today I arrived to catch up on the latest discussions and found out DPReview is shutting down. That really, really, really bothers me.In terms of alternatives, I know there's mu-forums, but I also know many folks aren't a fan of their terms of service. There's lots of comments here asking, "where do we go now?"I have IT knowledge and know how to spin up websites quickly. So, I made a Discourse server in case folks here want someplace fresh and new to migrate to.You'll find the server atmicro43.org.(I was shocked the domain was available, but it was, so I registered it!)There are no ads on it and no surveillance scripts. No affiliate links. You don't have to agree to onerous terms to use it. It's just a nice, clean Discourse server, ready for users to make their home.If this sounds appealing to you, please sign up. I'm happy to keep it going, find co-admins and enlist moderators to ensure it's not a one-person show.Why'd I make it? Well, I just could not sit still after I read the DPReview announcement and all of the comments here. It's so infuriating that a rich and vibrant community would just get dumped and abandoned like this, so I used my expertise to build something that might be capable of possibly replacing it. This is an experiment.Your participation will decide whether it's a success or not.I'm really impressed with Discourse and what it offers, it's well thought out software that has a future. The interface is modern and the signup process is pretty straightforward. This can't fully replace what Amazon is killing off here, but it can be part of the solution. It won't be owned by a giant corporation, that's for sure! If it takes off, perhaps we can form a community association to ensure its long term health and governance.Her is the message I received.Safari.When I visit my own website I get that same message! - but only on my newer win10 pc. My old everyday win7 pc goes straight in without a warning.I can assure there is nothing malious on my website. So have no idea why it throws up that warning about site certificate, etc.

Jan Steinman wrote:DrHook59 wrote:Has anyone on mu-43 EVER had their photos stolen?People really take themselves waaaaay too seriously. You can ask ChatGBT to make you an image that is probably better than the ones you're so worried will get stolen!I agree. For non-professional photographers I really see no problems with mu-4/3. As I have said elsewhere, when I die no one is going to give a fig about about any of the photos I have taken and my kids will be tossing out the hard-drives as fast as they can. If in the meantime someone steals a photo then good luck to them. I'm here for the photo-sharing anyway, and who am I to be bothered abut who's sharing them. I've policed a few other people's photos and hope the favour may be returned one day - but that's about the most I wish for.

Adrian Harris wrote:VS80 wrote:coastmountaineer wrote:Hi everyone. Longtime lurker here. I have been visiting these forums on a very regular basis for years, but never created an account, because I preferred to read rather than post. The discussions here have been truly insightful and helpful to my photography.Today I arrived to catch up on the latest discussions and found out DPReview is shutting down. That really, really, really bothers me.In terms of alternatives, I know there's mu-forums, but I also know many folks aren't a fan of their terms of service. There's lots of comments here asking, "where do we go now?"I have IT knowledge and know how to spin up websites quickly. So, I made a Discourse server in case folks here want someplace fresh and new to migrate to.You'll find the server atmicro43.org.(I was shocked the domain was available, but it was, so I registered it!)There are no ads on it and no surveillance scripts. No affiliate links. You don't have to agree to onerous terms to use it. It's just a nice, clean Discourse server, ready for users to make their home.If this sounds appealing to you, please sign up. I'm happy to keep it going, find co-admins and enlist moderators to ensure it's not a one-person show.Why'd I make it? Well, I just could not sit still after I read the DPReview announcement and all of the comments here. It's so infuriating that a rich and vibrant community would just get dumped and abandoned like this, so I used my expertise to build something that might be capable of possibly replacing it. This is an experiment.Your participation will decide whether it's a success or not.I'm really impressed with Discourse and what it offers, it's well thought out software that has a future. The interface is modern and the signup process is pretty straightforward. This can't fully replace what Amazon is killing off here, but it can be part of the solution. It won't be owned by a giant corporation, that's for sure! If it takes off, perhaps we can form a community association to ensure its long term health and governance.Her is the message I received.Safari.When I visit my own website I get that same message! - but only on my newer win10 pc. My old everyday win7 pc goes straight in without a warning.I can assure there is nothing malious on my website. So have no idea why it throws up that warning about site certificate, etc.You need to either update the .htaccess file to redirect non www to www, or if you have cpanel go to redirects and opt for a permanent 301 redirection.This is routine and something that the people you bought your domain off could (actually should by default) do in about one minute flat. If you google '301 redirect', you will find plenty of instructions and examples of what's going on.Common with personal domain names, but I'm surprised to hear that an internet forum has been set up without the most rudimentary management of the domain.EDIT: this explains things better than i can:https://www.hostinger.co.uk/tutorials/how-to-redirect-non-www-urls-to-www

RichardCass wrote:Adrian Harris wrote:VS80 wrote:coastmountaineer wrote:Hi everyone. Longtime lurker here. I have been visiting these forums on a very regular basis for years, but never created an account, because I preferred to read rather than post. The discussions here have been truly insightful and helpful to my photography.Today I arrived to catch up on the latest discussions and found out DPReview is shutting down. That really, really, really bothers me.In terms of alternatives, I know there's mu-forums, but I also know many folks aren't a fan of their terms of service. There's lots of comments here asking, "where do we go now?"I have IT knowledge and know how to spin up websites quickly. So, I made a Discourse server in case folks here want someplace fresh and new to migrate to.You'll find the server atmicro43.org.(I was shocked the domain was available, but it was, so I registered it!)There are no ads on it and no surveillance scripts. No affiliate links. You don't have to agree to onerous terms to use it. It's just a nice, clean Discourse server, ready for users to make their home.If this sounds appealing to you, please sign up. I'm happy to keep it going, find co-admins and enlist moderators to ensure it's not a one-person show.Why'd I make it? Well, I just could not sit still after I read the DPReview announcement and all of the comments here. It's so infuriating that a rich and vibrant community would just get dumped and abandoned like this, so I used my expertise to build something that might be capable of possibly replacing it. This is an experiment.Your participation will decide whether it's a success or not.I'm really impressed with Discourse and what it offers, it's well thought out software that has a future. The interface is modern and the signup process is pretty straightforward. This can't fully replace what Amazon is killing off here, but it can be part of the solution. It won't be owned by a giant corporation, that's for sure! If it takes off, perhaps we can form a community association to ensure its long term health and governance.Her is the message I received.Safari.When I visit my own website I get that same message! - but only on my newer win10 pc. My old everyday win7 pc goes straight in without a warning.I can assure there is nothing malious on my website. So have no idea why it throws up that warning about site certificate, etc.You need to either update the .htaccess file to redirect non www to www, or if you have cpanel go to redirects and opt for a permanent 301 redirection.This is routine and something that the people you bought your domain off could (actually should by default) do in about one minute flat. If you google '301 redirect', you will find plenty of instructions and examples of what's going on.Common with personal domain names, but I'm surprised to hear that an internet forum has been set up without the most rudimentary management of the domain.EDIT: this explains things better than i can:https://www.hostinger.co.uk/tutorials/how-to-redirect-non-www-urls-to-wwwThank you Richard. I didn't fully understand all that, but I have saved your advice down and will look into it next week when I have a little more time and a clear head.

I just signed up. Thank you so much for the initiative you took there!But: Behind the activation link in the first email lies a completely different link from what is shown in the email.In the email the shown link begins with: "h_ttps://micro43.org/u/activate-account/..."The link behind that begins with: "h_ttps://fifibaf.r.bh.d.sendibt3.com/tr/cl/..."What's up with that? I copy and pasted the top link (which worked), the other looked a bit fishy to me.Edit: I inserted an underscore in the links because I couldn't get the automatic links removed.

Adrian Harris wrote:RichardCass wrote:Adrian Harris wrote:VS80 wrote:coastmountaineer wrote:Hi everyone. Longtime lurker here. I have been visiting these forums on a very regular basis for years, but never created an account, because I preferred to read rather than post. The discussions here have been truly insightful and helpful to my photography.Today I arrived to catch up on the latest discussions and found out DPReview is shutting down. That really, really, really bothers me.In terms of alternatives, I know there's mu-forums, but I also know many folks aren't a fan of their terms of service. There's lots of comments here asking, "where do we go now?"I have IT knowledge and know how to spin up websites quickly. So, I made a Discourse server in case folks here want someplace fresh and new to migrate to.You'll find the server atmicro43.org.(I was shocked the domain was available, but it was, so I registered it!)There are no ads on it and no surveillance scripts. No affiliate links. You don't have to agree to onerous terms to use it. It's just a nice, clean Discourse server, ready for users to make their home.If this sounds appealing to you, please sign up. I'm happy to keep it going, find co-admins and enlist moderators to ensure it's not a one-person show.Why'd I make it? Well, I just could not sit still after I read the DPReview announcement and all of the comments here. It's so infuriating that a rich and vibrant community would just get dumped and abandoned like this, so I used my expertise to build something that might be capable of possibly replacing it. This is an experiment.Your participation will decide whether it's a success or not.I'm really impressed with Discourse and what it offers, it's well thought out software that has a future. The interface is modern and the signup process is pretty straightforward. This can't fully replace what Amazon is killing off here, but it can be part of the solution. It won't be owned by a giant corporation, that's for sure! If it takes off, perhaps we can form a community association to ensure its long term health and governance.Her is the message I received.Safari.When I visit my own website I get that same message! - but only on my newer win10 pc. My old everyday win7 pc goes straight in without a warning.I can assure there is nothing malious on my website. So have no idea why it throws up that warning about site certificate, etc.You need to either update the .htaccess file to redirect non www to www, or if you have cpanel go to redirects and opt for a permanent 301 redirection.This is routine and something that the people you bought your domain off could (actually should by default) do in about one minute flat. If you google '301 redirect', you will find plenty of instructions and examples of what's going on.Common with personal domain names, but I'm surprised to hear that an internet forum has been set up without the most rudimentary management of the domain.EDIT: this explains things better than i can:https://www.hostinger.co.uk/tutorials/how-to-redirect-non-www-urls-to-wwwThank you Richard. I didn't fully understand all that, but I have saved your advice down and will look into it next week when I have a little more time and a clear head.Adrian, just raise a support ticket with whoever is hosting t1000.co.uk and explain what you would like to do, ie, www and non-www queries/links need to point to the same place without generating errors. I would expect them to do it for you and if they don't I'd probably be wondering if I should get my hosting from someone else.You could also see if they do a free ssl certificate (your web address will start https: instead of http: - this gets rid of the 'not secure' browser warning. My hosts allow me to secure my domains with certificates by Let's Encrypt - they do not charge for this although I have to administer it myself. It's a simple checkbox in control panel.

Electro35 wrote:I just signed up. Thank you so much for the initiative you took there!But: Behind the activation link in the first email lies a completely different link from what is shown in the email.In the email the shown link begins with: "h_ttps://micro43.org/u/activate-account/..."The link behind that begins with: "h_ttps://fifibaf.r.bh.d.sendibt3.com/tr/cl/..."What's up with that? I copy and pasted the top link (which worked), the other looked a bit fishy to me.Edit: I inserted an underscore in the links because I couldn't get the automatic links removed.It's the email service they are using - Sendinblue.

Thank you! Others over there had the same explanation.Sorry for sounding the alarm unnecessarily! But on the other hand it is better to be safe than sorry.

Electro35 wrote:Thank you! Others over there had the same explanation.Sorry for sounding the alarm unnecessarily! But on the other hand it is better to be safe than sorry.I agree, it is very important to take online safety and privacy seriously.

For those curious, here is the TOS pertaining to posted content for the micro43.org forum:Your ContentNothing in these terms gives the company any ownership rights in intellectual property that you share with the forum, such as your account information, posts, or other content you submit to the forum. Nothing in these terms gives you any ownership rights in the company’s intellectual property, either.Between you and the company, you remain solely responsible for content you submit to the forum. You agree not to wrongly imply that content you submit to the forum is sponsored or approved by the company. These terms do not obligate the company to store, maintain, or provide copies of content you submit, and to change it, according to these terms.Content you submit to the forum belongs to you, and you decide what permission to give others for it. But at a minimum, you license the company to provide content that you submit to the forum to other users of the forum. That special license allows the company to copy, publish, and analyze content you submit to the forum.When content you submit is removed from the forum, whether by you or by the company, the company’s special license ends when the last copy disappears from the company’s backups, caches, and other systems. Other licenses you apply to content you submit, such asCreative Commonslicenses, may continue after your content is removed. Those licenses may give others, or the company itself, the right to share your content through the forum again.Others who receive content you submit to the forum may violate the terms on which you license your content. You agree that the company will not be liable to you for those violations or their consequences.

Unlike FaceBook which owns your content when you post it. I have a FaceBook account so people can find me. It's content-free. I give Zuckerberg nothing.

TheRealYeats wrote:For those curious, here is the TOS pertaining to posted content for the micro43.org forum:Your ContentNothing in these terms gives the company any ownership rights in intellectual property that you share with the forum, such as your account information, posts, or other content you submit to the forum. Nothing in these terms gives you any ownership rights in the company’s intellectual property, either.Between you and the company, you remain solely responsible for content you submit to the forum. You agree not to wrongly imply that content you submit to the forum is sponsored or approved by the company. These terms do not obligate the company to store, maintain, or provide copies of content you submit, and to change it, according to these terms.Content you submit to the forum belongs to you, and you decide what permission to give others for it. But at a minimum, you license the company to provide content that you submit to the forum to other users of the forum. That special license allows the company to copy, publish, and analyze content you submit to the forum.When content you submit is removed from the forum, whether by you or by the company, the company’s special license ends when the last copy disappears from the company’s backups, caches, and other systems. Other licenses you apply to content you submit, such asCreative Commonslicenses, may continue after your content is removed. Those licenses may give others, or the company itself, the right to share your content through the forum again.Others who receive content you submit to the forum may violate the terms on which you license your content. You agree that the company will not be liable to you for those violations or their consequences.To me those terms seem okay.

Despite a few attempts I haven't received the activation email from micro43.org. It's the same email address I use here and used to successfully  register on dprevived so I don't know why there's a problem.

Snapsh0t wrote:Despite a few attempts I haven't received the activation email from micro43.org. It's the same email address I use here and used to successfully register on dprevived so I don't know why there's a problem.What was the user name you requested?I can contact the admin for you and ask him to look into it.Stephen

Thank you for your service to the communitycoastmountaineer wrote:Hi everyone. Longtime lurker here. I have been visiting these forums on a very regular basis for years, but never created an account, because I preferred to read rather than post. The discussions here have been truly insightful and helpful to my photography.Today I arrived to catch up on the latest discussions and found out DPReview is shutting down. That really, really, really bothers me.In terms of alternatives, I know there's mu-forums, but I also know many folks aren't a fan of their terms of service. There's lots of comments here asking, "where do we go now?"I have IT knowledge and know how to spin up websites quickly. So, I made a Discourse server in case folks here want someplace fresh and new to migrate to.You'll find the server atmicro43.org.(I was shocked the domain was available, but it was, so I registered it!)There are no ads on it and no surveillance scripts. No affiliate links. You don't have to agree to onerous terms to use it. It's just a nice, clean Discourse server, ready for users to make their home.If this sounds appealing to you, please sign up. I'm happy to keep it going, find co-admins and enlist moderators to ensure it's not a one-person show.Why'd I make it? Well, I just could not sit still after I read the DPReview announcement and all of the comments here. It's so infuriating that a rich and vibrant community would just get dumped and abandoned like this, so I used my expertise to build something that might be capable of possibly replacing it. This is an experiment.Your participation will decide whether it's a success or not.I'm really impressed with Discourse and what it offers, it's well thought out software that has a future. The interface is modern and the signup process is pretty straightforward. This can't fully replace what Amazon is killing off here, but it can be part of the solution. It won't be owned by a giant corporation, that's for sure! If it takes off, perhaps we can form a community association to ensure its long term health and governance.